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05-30-2018 05:16 PM
Bloggin
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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Explorer and Aviator will share zero body panels, or a roofline. Just like Flex and MKT, MKZ and Fusion, MKC and Escape, Edge and Nautilus.

Expy/Navi are the exception, in that that's a common practice in that segment - GM triplets, Infiniti QX80/Nissan Armada, Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX.

So you can be doubtful, but you'd be wrong.
That sounds good but we will have to see how that all works out in production form for both models.
05-30-2018 01:47 PM
rmc523
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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It's doubtful that Ford will invest into changing the roofline between the Aviator and Explorer. Just like what was done with the higher margin Expedition and Navigator.

Explorer and Aviator will share zero body panels, or a roofline. Just like Flex and MKT, MKZ and Fusion, MKC and Escape, Edge and Nautilus.

Expy/Navi are the exception, in that that's a common practice in that segment - GM triplets, Infiniti QX80/Nissan Armada, Toyota Land Cruiser/Lexus LX.

So you can be doubtful, but you'd be wrong.
05-29-2018 06:29 PM
Bloggin
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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I think it has a more sloping roofline than Explorer will.
It's doubtful that Ford will invest into changing the roofline between the Aviator and Explorer. Just like what was done with the higher margin Expedition and Navigator.

05-29-2018 06:21 PM
rmc523
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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Maybe not as low as the MKT but the upcoming Aviator still seems more low slung than the current Explorer SUV, that's what I was trying to say.
I think it has a more sloping roofline than Explorer will.
05-29-2018 05:49 PM
AM222
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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It's taller than MKT. You realize MKT is low slung more like a wagon right?
Maybe not as low as the MKT but the upcoming Aviator still seems more low slung than the current Explorer SUV, that's what I was trying to say.
05-29-2018 12:49 PM
rmc523
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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How tall is the upcoming Aviator? It looks noticeably lower than the current gen Explorer.
My guess is it's probably as tall as an MKT.





I wonder if this is Ford is making its SUVs lower and more car-like because it's killing its traditional sedans.
It's taller than MKT. You realize MKT is low slung more like a wagon right?
05-29-2018 05:29 AM
AM222
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

How tall is the upcoming Aviator? It looks noticeably lower than the current gen Explorer.
My guess is it's probably as tall as an MKT.





I wonder if this is Ford is making its SUVs lower and more car-like because it's killing its traditional sedans.
05-13-2018 02:26 AM
Falc'man
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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Agree with the half-baked. Disagree with the solution. More HP might boost sales slightly, but even if 650HP was pricey and exclusive, it's not going to be a big draw. Continental's biggest problem is that it simply didn't look like a Continental to begin with. Now that the MKZ has the matching grille the Continental does not stand out nor LOOK exclusive. Adding big power won't improve the look without abandoning Lincoln-ness by plastering massive badges all over it.
How it looks is subjective therefore besides that what do you think is missing?

When people realise the power on offer is over 600hp, and that it's provided via a RWD platform, there's simply very little reason not to add it to the must-have list.

The current proportions are borderline RWD, on D6 it would be a dead set stunner.

Why do I propose that much power? Silly question when a) they're quite capable of it, and b) the competition has moved on from 550hp, so you can't rock up to the party with something outdated. Sensible? Of course not. Desirable? Ken oath!
05-10-2018 06:11 PM
glyphics
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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Agree with the half-baked. Disagree with the solution. More HP might boost sales slightly, but even if 650HP was pricey and exclusive, it's not going to be a big draw. Continental's biggest problem is that it simply didn't look like a Continental to begin with. Now that the MKZ has the matching grille the Continental does not stand out nor LOOK exclusive. Adding big power won't improve the look without abandoning Lincoln-ness by plastering massive badges all over it.
I agree. In all fairness, Falc'man was responding in agreement to my post #43.

True, adding horsepower to today's Conti would be an expensive investment with no payoff. Better to invest in a true flagship and let the chips fall where they may. It makes no sense to declare a half-baked placeholder a failure and then call it the reason to stop trying. Even Kia knows that.
05-10-2018 12:52 PM
FloridaMatt
Re: BEYOND UNCOVERED: Lincoln's Future Lineup SPECULATION

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I totally agree with this. Lincoln went in half-baked with the Continental, equipping with many appointments but forgot about the one drawcard that prospective buyers always expect - lots of horsepower. Realistically 400hp is good, but reality is perception and emotion are far greater influences in buying a prestige vehicle than Lincoln give credit for.

Use a detuned Predator (650hp) and they could easily sell the Continental for at least double the current price. All high rollers will want it, plus they don't want to be seen in something with a "cheap" retail.

When Ford made the GT so exclusive and put hurdles in place to get one, people tripped over themselves to buy one.
Agree with the half-baked. Disagree with the solution. More HP might boost sales slightly, but even if 650HP was pricey and exclusive, it's not going to be a big draw. Continental's biggest problem is that it simply didn't look like a Continental to begin with. Now that the MKZ has the matching grille the Continental does not stand out nor LOOK exclusive. Adding big power won't improve the look without abandoning Lincoln-ness by plastering massive badges all over it.
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