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05-19-2018 06:15 PM
2b2
lasciate ogni macchina / #meToo !

Fiat to abandon production of its mass-market cars in Italy
AutoCar.co.UK


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...shift-in-italy

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/bu...hift/35079531/

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MotorAuthority: umm... ...We didn't mean UP$cale model$
05-18-2018 04:14 AM
2b2
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

swiped from GMi...channeling GMauthority I think...
next Buick Lacrosse ________________ ...fwiw
05-15-2018 01:12 PM
rmc523
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

Quote:
Originally Posted by wingsnut View Post
Bloggin is suggesting that replacing low margin sedans with zero margin BEV sedans would be a better solution. Hard to see that math working, but I do hope for it from Ford.
Oh I got that. But his quote of a Caddy spokesperson said absolutely nothing about electric cars, and the article only mentioned automakers are spending on them.
05-15-2018 01:05 PM
wingsnut
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

Bloggin is suggesting that replacing low margin sedans with zero margin BEV sedans would be a better solution. Hard to see that math working, but I do hope for it from Ford.
05-15-2018 12:26 PM
rmc523
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloggin View Post
That all sounds logical ONLY if you ignore this part....

"A Cadillac spokesman said the luxury brand plans to replace the compact ATS, midsize CTS and large XTS sedans with two new sedans,..."

GM more than any one of the ICE companies is set to launch the next gen EV sedans. They see all that pent up demand the Model 3 has exposed in the global marketplace.
WTF are you talking about?
05-14-2018 07:57 PM
Bloggin
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2b2 View Post
via GMauthority

GM May Also Exit the U.S Car Market, Morgan Stanley Says
Bloomberg
- Craig Trudell & David Westin - May 11, 2018


General Motors Co. may follow its Detroit peers in taking the off ramp from the American passenger-car market, according to Morgan Stanley.

The maker of Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac sedans might mimic Ford Motor Co., which is keeping only the Mustang muscle car in the lineup, and Fiat Chrysler, which no longer manufactures sedans in the U.S., Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said Friday.

“All three of the Detroit Three automakers have something in common: They’ve all been exiting the car business,” Jonas said in a Bloomberg Television interview. “We think that GM is going to follow” Fiat Chrysler and Ford, he said.

The transformation of GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler’s lineups will factor in how the companies approach negotiations with the Trump administration and California regulators over the future of fuel economy standards, Jonas said. On one hand, the automakers will press for relaxed federal rules to protect their truck and SUV businesses. At the same time, the manufacturers are investing heavily in electric vehicles to appease the Golden State.

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anyone know offhand which foreign mfgs build sedans in the U.S?
iirc definitely CamCord, others?

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That all sounds logical ONLY if you ignore this part....

"A Cadillac spokesman said the luxury brand plans to replace the compact ATS, midsize CTS and large XTS sedans with two new sedans,..."

GM more than any one of the ICE companies is set to launch the next gen EV sedans. They see all that pent up demand the Model 3 has exposed in the global marketplace.
05-14-2018 04:29 PM
2b2
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

via GMauthority

GM May Also Exit the U.S Car Market, Morgan Stanley Says
Bloomberg
- Craig Trudell & David Westin - May 11, 2018


General Motors Co. may follow its Detroit peers in taking the off ramp from the American passenger-car market, according to Morgan Stanley.

The maker of Chevrolet, Buick and Cadillac sedans might mimic Ford Motor Co., which is keeping only the Mustang muscle car in the lineup, and Fiat Chrysler, which no longer manufactures sedans in the U.S., Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas said Friday.

“All three of the Detroit Three automakers have something in common: They’ve all been exiting the car business,” Jonas said in a Bloomberg Television interview. “We think that GM is going to follow” Fiat Chrysler and Ford, he said.

The transformation of GM, Ford and Fiat Chrysler’s lineups will factor in how the companies approach negotiations with the Trump administration and California regulators over the future of fuel economy standards, Jonas said. On one hand, the automakers will press for relaxed federal rules to protect their truck and SUV businesses. At the same time, the manufacturers are investing heavily in electric vehicles to appease the Golden State.

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anyone know offhand which foreign mfgs build sedans in the U.S?
iirc definitely CamCord, others?

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05-14-2018 07:17 AM
falcon lover
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

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Originally Posted by jpd80 View Post
I wonder if there would be a place for the Euro Ford S-Sax in North America,

it's an MPV but not so awful as some designs...





And this is the Ford Galaxy stable mate, much more of a mini van



No way... Europe is killing its People Movers (like the Ford S-Max and Galaxies) and making more Crossovers and SUVs... Ford will not be the exception.
05-12-2018 06:42 PM
jpd80
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

I wonder if there would be a place for the Euro Ford S-Sax in North America,

it's an MPV but not so awful as some designs...





And this is the Ford Galaxy stable mate, much more of a mini van


05-12-2018 06:03 PM
wingsnut
Re: KILL ALL CARS / #meToo !

“concluding the successful lifecycle of the ATS Sedan in North America”

Is this opposite day?
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