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09-14-2018 02:33 PM
Assimilator
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

09-13-2018 10:10 PM
Bloggin
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

"Market intelligence is telling us that Generation Z's favorite body style is sedans. The big wheel is turning."

I saw this happening months ago. Even for those that still think they want a big suv is the even higher cost of a next gen version. And whether they want to pay the higher price just to buy what they see other people buying, so they can fit in. Unless it's necessary to haul around a bunch of kids and their stuff, it's doubtful that a firs time suv buyer will do it again. Especially since they had to give up lower maintenance costs, lower insurance costs, much better driving dynamics/more fun to drive, much better styling and better fuel economy. I see why Tesla, Nissan/Infiniti, Toyota/Lexus, MB and BMW are all offering new or expanding their range of sedans/grand coupes/5 door models.

Then there is the base $35k Model 3 coming by May 2019.......

"The entry-level Model 3 – priced at just $35,000 – could mess things up for some rather popular and high-selling cars in the United States and then, the world. For example, the likes of a Toyota Camry, whose top of the line XSE V6 model trim comes at $34,950 could be under attack. The BMW 3 Series, for example, starts at a similar $34,900. The Mercedes-Benz C-Class is just a tad more expensive – starting at $40,250. The new Audi A4 is priced at $36,000. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg."


Seriously, Ford is coming with more sedans. They just want to call them something else so they can charge overcharge the consumer for the sake of higher margins. This would just be greed and not a long term solution.
09-13-2018 02:21 PM
Assimilator
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

Sedans are great for non-volume carmakers, specifically luxury carmakers. They can be more stylish, exotic, luxurious and with performance that can only be had because they are low to the ground and sprung tightly (or adaptively). The differences between mainstream sedans and utilities are all negatives for the sedan...basically they offer less utility and comfort with the only benefit being cost and style preference. Not to mention sedans have lost their status next to utilities, again unless it's an expensive luxury.

And to me, utilities are just as stylish, often more so since it's just a larger and bolder canvas to work with with many different forms and ways to personalize them. Sedans basically cut the same shape no matter what carmaker they are from, which is why I call them commodities. There isn't much flexibility and they all have to do exactly the same thing. It's pretty boring.
09-13-2018 09:00 AM
Andrew L
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

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Originally Posted by Assimilator View Post
The Altima accelerating the race to the bottom for sedans. Please, have it all Nissan!

I don't understand this sudden love for midsize sedans, they have ALWAYS been boring rubbish that has never rewarded innovation or luxuries. It's just a cheap commodity bought by people who don't care about the appliance they are driving. Whether that's a midsize sedan or a compact crossover, it really doesn't matter.

There have been some gems along the way like the first and second gen Taurus SHO that brought excitement to the mid size sedan market.
09-12-2018 06:45 PM
Assimilator
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

The Altima accelerating the race to the bottom for sedans. Please, have it all Nissan!

I don't understand this sudden love for midsize sedans, they have ALWAYS been boring rubbish that has never rewarded innovation or luxuries. It's just a cheap commodity bought by people who don't care about the appliance they are driving. Whether that's a midsize sedan or a compact crossover, it really doesn't matter.
09-12-2018 09:21 AM
Logans Run
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

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This car looks , scream "cheap". If sedans in USA takes this road, kill them all rigth now.
It just doesn't bring anything new to the game, and the game is stagnant.
09-12-2018 07:29 AM
Rick Astley
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

Much better than the previous generation, pretty decent and clean exterior for Nissan. Looks less overdesigned than the Camry and Accord (oh, and the Malibu, how could i forget this awful face).
09-12-2018 04:37 AM
falcon lover
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

This car looks , scream "cheap". If sedans in USA takes this road, kill them all rigth now.
09-12-2018 02:53 AM
wingsnut
Re: 2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

Yeah, I made a similar prediction recently about sedans.
Good luck with that.
09-11-2018 09:54 PM
Bloggin
2019 Altima Challenge Sedan Slump

Nissan Positions Altima to Challenge Sedan Slump
Lindsay Chappell
http://www.autonews.com/article/2018...ge-sedan-slump



Nissan will launch one of its most critical new products next month -- the redesigned 2019 Altima sedan -- and is hoping it will alter the current market reality.

Nissan's response: Give them something in the Altima to make them reconsider.

Nissan has stuffed the next-generation midsize, or "D-segment," Altima with all-wheel drive, a revolutionary new "variable compression" engine and advanced safety technologies such as ProPilot Assist and Safety Shield 360 with rear automatic braking.

"People are looking for tech," Nissan North America Chairman Denis Le Vot said during an Automotive News interview Tuesday. "There used to be less tech in a D sedan. Now we're getting back with the most concentrated technology we've ever had."

It is a power play for the Altima, which until recently has been Nissan's perennial volume leader -- now displaced from the top spot by the Rogue crossover.

Nissan will build the Altima on a global sedan platform that also will be manufactured in China, meaning that it has the expanded sales potential to justify a business case for including expensive new technology such as awd.

U.S. sales of the Altima are off 16 percent this year, and overall midsize sedan demand has dropped 16 percent.

The sedan segment's decline has been a problem for Nissan, Le Vot said. Despite its successes in crossovers over the years, Nissan is still perceived as a "car brand" and is still heavily reliant on sedans for sales.

Le Vot acknowledged that sedans now account for about 30 percent of U.S. sales, down from 52 percent six years ago.

But he predicted sedan sales will return.

"We think 30 percent is the bottom," he said, adding that market factors will bring consumers back to the segment.

"Time will tell," he said. "Market intelligence is telling us that Generation Z's favorite body style is sedans. The big wheel is turning."

His reasoning: Higher interest rates will push many price-sensitive buyers back out of more expensive crossovers and SUVs. The addition of awd will reassure some buyers who want the safety of an SUV. And rising fuel costs will favor more fuel-efficient sedans, he said.

He said Nissan stands to increase conquest sales in sedans as other brands, including Ford, back away from the shrinking pool.

He also hinted that Nissan will be fanning the flame by enhancing all of its sedans in the coming year or two. The Versa, Versa Note, Sentra and Maxima are all slated to follow the Altima with redesigns.

But Le Vot stopped short of revealing any specific product plans.

"This is just the start," he said of the Altima makeover. "By 2020, we're going to be renewing 70 percent of our volume of sales. That is the core sedans, the core crossover and one of the trucks. We're really in a new phase of renewing."

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