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08-08-2019 06:01 PM
ZanatWork
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

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Originally Posted by wingsnut View Post
A bit dramatic for humor, perhaps.

Honestly, the 6.2L SOHC is not that much bigger. It's wider, sure, but shorter and about the same height as the 7.3L. The 5.0L is much shorter yet and not as tall as the 7.3L. Appearances can be tricky. The 7.3L will not have a following, like other motors. Pure workhorse that will avoid the limelight.
Kinda humorous, kinda the results of watching some of my tuner shop buddies reminding me how easily LS motors wedge into tighter spaces compared to mod motors. I usually remind them that they require an extra liter of displacement to get a tenth advantage, ask 'em if they miss Vortech rod knock, and wander off.

I am curious how the new motor will respond to the inevitable and imminent modifications/tunings. Check upcoming SEMA shows....
08-07-2019 09:17 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

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Originally Posted by ZanatWork View Post
Maybe Ford also got tired of complaints regarding the sheer size of the OHC motors, however capable they may be.
A bit dramatic for humor, perhaps.

Honestly, the 6.2L SOHC is not that much bigger. It's wider, sure, but shorter and about the same height as the 7.3L. The 5.0L is much shorter yet and not as tall as the 7.3L. Appearances can be tricky. The 7.3L will not have a following, like other motors. Pure workhorse that will avoid the limelight.
08-07-2019 07:28 PM
ZanatWork
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

Maybe Ford also got tired of complaints regarding the sheer size of the OHC motors, however capable they may be.
08-07-2019 07:12 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

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Originally Posted by AM222 View Post
I don't think getting the most power & torque out of the 7.3 was the priority. It's a workhorse engine with a focus on durability, low operating cost/maintenance etc.

Indeed, that is exactly what they did, engineer a bespoke and affordable option, with a bigger emphasis on commercial market, whose case study requirements drove the design.
08-07-2019 01:38 PM
AM222
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

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Originally Posted by germeezy1 View Post
The issue is that a clean sheet design is still only broadly competitive with its competition. That includes torque which GM is only 11 lb ft shy with even less displacement.
I don't think getting the most power & torque out of the 7.3 was the priority. It's a workhorse engine with a focus on durability, low operating cost/maintenance etc.
08-07-2019 09:51 AM
Logans Run
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

It is nice to see Ford designing new engines to fit a purpose, instead of modifying existing engines and hoping for the best.
08-01-2019 09:15 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

DEARBORN – Ford F-Series, America’s best-selling truck for 42 years, is once again raising the bar for capability with its all-new 7.3-liter V8 gasoline engine. The 7.3-liter engine in Super Duty pickup cranks out best-in-class gas V8 output of 430 horsepower at 5,500 rpm and best-in-class torque of 475 ft.-lb. at 4,000 rpm.

No other competitor provides such a powerful and advanced gasoline engine in such a broad range of offerings – from Class 2 Super Duty pickups through Class 7 commercial trucks.

“The 7.3-liter is designed for maximum durability in the harshest environments given that our customers live and work in these conditions every day,” said Joel Beltramo, Ford manager for gas V8 engines. “This engine has the largest displacement in its class and is designed to provide benefits in key areas like power, durability, ease of maintenance and total operating costs.”

Based on decades of commercial engine experience, the 7.3-liter V8 delivers class-leading performance in a compact package. The 7.3-liter V8 features an overhead valve architecture that generates power low in the rev range to help get heavier loads moving sooner and with greater confidence. It also features a variable-displacement oil pump, extra-large main bearings, forged steel crankshaft for durability, and piston cooling jets to help manage temperatures under heavy load.

The all-new 7.3-liter will be available first in Super Duty F-250 and F-350 pickup models. It joins the 6.2-liter V8 gas engine in Super Duty’s lineup, along with the upgraded third-generation 6.7-liter Power Stroke® diesel V8. Additional power and capability numbers, including Super Duty towing and payload ratings as well as power numbers for the upgraded 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel will be announced later this year.

The 7.3-liter engine is paired with the all-new Ford-designed and Ford-built 10-speed heavy-duty TorqShift®automatic transmission on all models except F-650 and F-750, which retain the heavy-duty 6-speed.


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08-01-2019 09:09 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

I see very little applause by guess who, and a lot of crying in his breakfast cereal. Any reason I wonder why he can't applaud an excellent replacement to the thirsty mod motor in a value package that is very capable, in a high volume product, while continuing to pursue leadership as King of the segment?
08-01-2019 08:42 PM
germeezy1
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

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Originally Posted by ZanatWork View Post
The power figures make sense, as the torque is what actually matters and the torque band most of all. As much as we're all used to gaudy power numbers for some time, now, this is the engine's debut and initial production tune(s). Its power levels are starting at the upper echelon of the market, is much less complex than the Ecoboost motors, and is built for endurance/packaging/simplicity.

I fail to see the problem. It's not some part of the pony car hp wars, it's for hauling/towing while being less expensive than the diesel.
The issue is that a clean sheet design is still only broadly competitive with its competition. That includes torque which GM is only 11 lb ft shy with even less displacement.

That being said there was a statement about many hours of wide open throttle testing , and bearing as well as cylinder wall wear was said to be negligible.
08-01-2019 07:24 PM
wingsnut
Re: 2020 Super Duty Tremor

Yup, the motor was designed as a cheap alternative to Diesel, which the SD and commercial market demands. It will also replace the legacy modular motor. Area under the torque curve is the name of the game here, as is it's long term durability targets with it's cast iron block. Pretty sure Ford knows how to make more peaky power, but there is pretty much zero demad for it in this segment. When I heard D35 turbo like power/Tq numbers, I guess I assumed Raptor numbers. But still, being King is not a bad place to land.

And no, this would make very little sense in a Raptor. You would give up a lot of power, and gain a lot of weight.

I did hear that it exceeded all their fuel efficiency goals, for what that's worth.
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