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02-26-2016 08:23 PM
Re: Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

seems there might be 3 different "Karma" businesses other thread
but for MaximumBob fans, here's a recent Autoline

06-20-2015 12:53 AM
Re: Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

not sure what ELSE has changed,
didn't see a v8 mentioned...

Fisker to build new Karma in California -
by Joe Duarte - June 18, 2015

Now under Chinese ownership, the Fisker Karma looks poised to return to the road.

As stated in an April 2015 Autofile story, Wangxiang America bought up lithium-ion battery maker A123 at the end of 2012 and Fisker Automotive about a year later. It had stated it always intended to restart production of the plug-in hybrid luxury four-door coupe.

At the time, a new website ( was showing an overhead teaser shot of a car vaguely familiar to the discontinued Karma. The website has now been changed to offer information to current Karma owners, as well as public and owner forums. There is still no information on a new car, or another vehicle, but the company has announced plans to start up production at a new facility in Moreno Valley, California. The 555,670 square-foot facility is expected to employ 150 in manufacturing jobs...
02-19-2014 08:00 PM
Re: Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

Fisker's new owner teams up with Lutz on V-8 Karma - AutomotiveNews
February 19, 2014

WILMINGTON, Del. (Reuters) -- Fisker Automotive's new owner says the Karma sports car will come roaring back with a supercharged V8 engine -- with the help of former General Motors executive Bob Lutz.

The U.S. unit of Wanxiang Group of China received approval on Tuesday to acquire Fisker's assets for $149.2 million. Plans to revive the Karma as a traditional gas-guzzling sports car were revealed in U.S. Bankruptcy Court documents and by a person briefed on them...

...Lutz, a high-profile critic of Fisker's environmental approach, will get a chance to prove his contention that luxury car owners want firepower under the hood more than a reduced carbon footprint.

Wanxiang plans to team up with Lutz and his partner Gilbert Villarreal, who have established VL Automotive. Lutz' involvement with the Karma goes back several months, but he wasn't linked to Wanxiang's bid until now.

'Soul of Fisker'

In a presentation to creditors, Wanxiang called VL the "soul of Fisker" and praised the company for building the "first true American luxury grand touring sedan in decades, the VL Destino."

The Destino takes a Karma body and combines its external beauty with the internal brawn of a Corvette ZR-1 drive train, to produce an car that can hit 200 miles per hour...

Restarting production

Wanxiang plans to restart auto production in the coming months, first at Fisker's plant in Finland. After working through the inventory in northern Europe, it will begin to produce cars at VL's facility in Auburn Hills, Mich., near Detroit. The company has also mentioned making use of the Delaware plant...
02-14-2014 11:55 PM
Re: Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

Thanks, just watched the whole thing, interesting man, he sure can talk!

Highlights I found most noteworthy and interesting:

1) The Colorado was essentially 5 years old when it came out.

2) For the same CAFÉ gains, going Aluminum body or diesel engine, Aluminum body is way, way cheaper.

3) SAAB was a Fluster Cuck!

4) Mark Reuss; “Who wouldn’t like being CEO, what are you going to say, I’m disappointed, they should have picked me?”

5) Kappa was suppose to be built in Mexico, but UAW compromise put it in the US, in a far too large of facility, ultimately sealing its fate.
02-14-2014 09:19 PM
Re: Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

VL Automotive

02-14-2014 08:38 PM
Bob Lutz Motors? "VL Automotive" - AutolineDetroit

AAH #227 – Watch Out! Bob Lutz is Now a - - - maker - AutolineDetroit
February 1st, 2014 at 9:22pm


around 30 minutes in = get your Fisker with a Corvette v8!

O M G ! !

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