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2015 Ford F-150 vs. 2015 Chevrolet Silverado 1500, 2015 Ram 1500, 2014 Toyota Tundra

Let's go places built tough like a rock and grab life by the horns.





[Re: F-150, 1st Place]

"The new F-150 seems engineered to make us forget that it’s made of aluminum. Everything is oversized, from the shiny plastic door handles thick enough to fill your palm to the heavy doors that need to be muscled open like a 737’s. Inside, the seats are fulsomely tufted, the dashboard appears massive and blocky, and there’s a huge shifter in the center console that could have been salvaged off the bridge of the HMS Ark Royal. Ford has saved some weight by going nonferrous, but it’s not about to cede the F-150’s reputation as a tough hauler.

And it hasn’t saved that much weight. At 5577 pounds, this $61,520 F-150 still weighs more than two Fiesta STs. It’s the lightest truck in this test, but not by as much as it should be. There’s truth to the quip that by saving 600 pounds, Ford finally got its truck to weigh as little as a Chevy.



That noted, this F-150 is as quiet as an aluminum tomb. Good insulation and excellent management of the air around the vehicle keep down noise. The sounds that are heard—some tire rumble, a hint of turbo whine—are muffled or pleasant.

With an eight-inch digital screen embedded between the speedometer and tach, the F-150 offers the most advanced and easiest to read instrumentation. Throw in the new 360-degree camera system that eases everything from hitching up a trailer to crawling over obstacles at low speed and the Technology package here is the most fully *realized and the best available. The Sync entertainment system still isn’t as intuitive or as smart as we’d like, but it’s getting better.

With rear leaf springs, the F-150 can’t match the Ram for ride quality, and it isn’t as athletic as the Silverado, but its ride-and-handling balance may be the best. Though some found the steering too light, others thought it nicely weighted, even if it doesn’t have much to say.



The twin-turbocharged 3.5-liter EcoBoost V-6 bears a rating of 365 horsepower. It’s well matched to the six-speed automatic transmission, but extracting the performance one expects in today’s trucks means keeping the turbos on boil almost all the time. That burns fuel, and the F-150 only matched the Silverado’s 16 mpg during our mixed on- and off-road exploration of the Panamint.

The perfect truck—the self-actualizing full-size hauler—would be as nimble as the Silverado, ride like the Ram, and pack in the useful technology of the F-150. Right now Ford is the best compromise, even if perfect fulfillment still eludes it.

Ah ****, Abraham Maslow probably never drove a truck anyhow."


Read the full article here:

http://www.caranddriver.com/compari...5-ram-1500-2014-toyota-tundra-comparison-test
 

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Couple of things stood out right away to me.
Why was the as tested Ford so much more capable than everyone else? By thousands of pounds? Did that contribute to more weight with all the stronger equipment. And speaking of equipment, that Platinum has several features not offered by anyone else, cool features, but heavy features. Also too, what is with everyone's tiny fuel tank, where the Ford was rocking it with a 36 gal unit. Did that extra fuel come into play? The Ford truck easily beat everyone in acceleration tests, the Ram barely showed up, even the GM with it's big V8 and 8 speeds could not trump the Ford. What will happen when the Ford gets 10 speeds and it's next gen 3.5L?

Strange test, but even handicapped, the Ford came out ahead imo. Even in fuel economy, which I know for a fact one can do much better than shown here. That is the nature of a small boosted engine, when driven mildly, which is 99% of the time, they are far less thirsty.

Anyway, Ford has little to worry about regarding it's sales crown, if it did not relinquish it last year with production stopped for 3 months.
 

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I'm curious how it is that Chevy is only 100 pounds lighter with the steel body? What about the Ford is beefier than the Chevy?
 

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sweet caroline blogged this and it was some good points:

"Which truck is SAE certified for towing? What % of the build is GM's 6.2 liter? How many trans coolers in the GM? How many engine oil coolers? What is the diameter of all of the trucks ring gears to tow that 10,000 lbs of weight?"
 

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I did some quick math of weight guestimates of some the features on the Ford not on the GM truck, including,

large panoramic roof + 60lbs over regular sunroof
power fold out running boards + 60lbs (both sides) over regular step tube
Massaging 10 way seats + 35lbs over regular premium seats
Bigger front/rear ring gears, brakes, etc. for the larger towing capacity + 80lbs
Rear step gate and handle + 20lbs
360 camera, sensors and other tech exclusive on Ford + 50lbs

Total above of ~305lbs of weight that the GM truck does not offer.
I did not include the addtional weight of the much bigger tank and fuel, but there is that possibility as well.

Bottom line, your throw a mind blowing list of features on a big vehicle that rides on a strong chassis, and you have to expect things to get heavy.
 

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The GM trucks were already about 300-400lbs lighter than the previous gen F150, so in reality the new F150 is about 300lbs lighter than a comparitively equipped Silverado. The top of the line F150 has alot of new heavy accessories.
 
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