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I think he like the new Navi and it is a big step vs the 2014 model, nice to see that they change the ride quality and other stuff
 

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He really loved the interior.
yeah, the same design but the quality is better. I like how the engine's sound!
What I don't like: the brake light should be all the taillight like the Z not only the small part of the each side haha
 

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I'll agree that it looks better in and out but I'm still disappointed that Lincoln doesn't have a unique instrument panel. The Nav's is the same as my 4 year old Explorer; not appropriate.
 

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I'll agree that it looks better in and out but I'm still disappointed that Lincoln doesn't have a unique instrument panel. The Nav's is the same as my 4 year old Explorer; not appropriate.
That's definitely a issue! Even the the new instrument panel the MKZ introduced is very similar to one offered in the Fusion.
 

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I'll agree that it looks better in and out but I'm still disappointed that Lincoln doesn't have a unique instrument panel. The Nav's is the same as my 4 year old Explorer; not appropriate.
true, they could have use the MKZ panel:

althoug I hope to see something better like this:
 

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I am of the belief that some things should not change, just for the sake of change.
IOW, if the instrument cluster is very functional and familiar and well laid out, as well as clean and elegant looking……leave it alone. Especially something that gets so much of your visual attention. Perhaps it is a familial look that is best anyway. Regardless, they were bounded by the same instrument panel shape and structure anyway, for the most part, so how much change could they effectively implement.
 

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I am of the belief that some things should not change, just for the sake of change.
IOW, if the instrument cluster is very functional and familiar and well laid out, as well as clean and elegant looking……leave it alone. Especially something that gets so much of your visual attention. Perhaps it is a familial look that is best anyway. Regardless, they were bounded by the same instrument panel shape and structure anyway, for the most part, so how much change could they effectively implement.
It's just another thing that reminds you of Ford. Something like switchgear and window switches aren't as important in terms of sharing a design (not quality) but I think the instrument panel is more important. It's something that's right in your face and something that shouldn't be so familiar stepping out of a 22k fusion to a 60k navigator in my opinion. They could at least develop a all digital dashboard that could just have different interfaces in different cars. Kind of like cell phones. A Galaxy and a Droid both use Android 4.3 but the interface is different, with different icons, layouts, colors, etc.
 

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...I'm still disappointed that Lincoln doesn't have a unique instrument panel. The Nav's is the same as my 4 year old Explorer; not appropriate.
Will said:
That's definitely a issue! Even the the new instrument panel the MKZ introduced is very similar to one offered in the Fusion.
back before I became forced to spend most of my waking hours plotting at Lincoln
(pre June 2010)
I was thinking of ONE type of InstrumentPanel (with different trim/skins) for ALL & Every Mercury
-- due to the "modest" sales numbers / wanting SOME parts volume
-- to build Brand recognition &
-- '''those Michigan guys put to much effort in the wrong things'''
AND
tho I expect Lincoln to bilk/charge enough $$$ to keep per-model IPs;
imho it could be very good to use(TRY) the trim-level approach
ex.: [BL] & {portfolio} ... they already have the <Hybrid> version
where possibly all of those have distinct characteristics SHARED across all Lincolns
& most specifically differentiated from ANY Ford
 

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It's just another thing that reminds you of Ford. Something like switchgear and window switches aren't as important in terms of sharing a design (not quality) but I think the instrument panel is more important. It's something that's right in your face and something that shouldn't be so familiar stepping out of a 22k fusion to a 60k navigator in my opinion. They could at least develop a all digital dashboard that could just have different interfaces in different cars. Kind of like cell phones. A Galaxy and a Droid both use Android 4.3 but the interface is different, with different icons, layouts, colors, etc.
Sounds good I guess. But if I own a Lincoln and wife drives a Ford, and we frequently swap vehicles, the display/menu is the one thing I want to be comfortable with. Although there is already plenty of variability options within the display itself, maybe more is coming with future models.

But like I said, if it looks great now, that goes a long way, and the Lincoln display looks great.
 

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Why is the EcoBoost blowing so much smoke when he revs it? Why are they having to resort to such a rich mixture? At least that explains why all of the EcoBoost tailpipes I have ever seen are all black with soot. That can't be doing any favors for mileage.
 

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long video, it really starts at 14 min and finish at 52 min. there is a lot of parts about the guy talking but there are some nice shots of the Navi, it looks better in videos than photos
 

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Why is the EcoBoost blowing so much smoke when he revs it? Why are they having to resort to such a rich mixture? At least that explains why all of the EcoBoost tailpipes I have ever seen are all black with soot. That can't be doing any favors for mileage.
Why are YOU always blowing so much smoke? The D35 TiVCT EcoBoost is designed with an emphasis on cleaner combustion and fuel efficiency, so stop the nonsense.
 

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Why are YOU always blowing so much smoke? The D35 TiVCT EcoBoost is designed with an emphasis on cleaner combustion and fuel efficiency, so stop the nonsense.
Your dimwitted and useles reply aside (not that I really expected anything more, or less, from you), doesn't answer my question. There is obviously something coming out of the exhaust pipe of the EcoBoost truck that is not being emitted from the V8 truck. It is not white which dissipates quickly suggesting water vapor, but dark and sticks around.

My question still stands if anybody has anything to add. Thanks. :)
 

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Your dimwitted and useles reply aside (not that I really expected anything more, or less, from you), doesn't answer my question. There is obviously something coming out of the exhaust pipe of the EcoBoost truck that is not being emitted from the V8 truck. It is not white which dissipates quickly suggesting water vapor, but dark and sticks around.

My question still stands if anybody has anything to add. Thanks. :)

You accused the Navi in the linked video of blowing black smoke, which it clearly did not. You are obviously eluding to a short-lived calibration issue that arose nearly 2 years ago, involving about 2 months of production volume for the F-150. It was Recall 13e03 and can easily be googled. Again, the problem has long been resolved, but my guess, you are reaching for something that just is not there.

Why am I not surprised.
 

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Try reading my original post again without flashing Bunched Panty Brigade badge. I never said it was blowing black smoke. I did say that it was blowing smoke every time it was revved which, if you watch the video carefully, you can see. It is not a plume of smoke akin to rolling coal, but it was blowing some smoke. My question, your histrionics aside, was not a criticiscm but stems from curiosity.

Anybody rational out there that can answer my question?
 

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Try reading my original post again without flashing Bunched Panty Brigade badge. I never said it was blowing black smoke. I did say that it was blowing smoke every time it was revved which, if you watch the video carefully, you can see. It is not a plume of smoke akin to rolling coal, but it was blowing some smoke. My question, your histrionics aside, was not a criticiscm but stems from curiosity.

Anybody rational out there that can answer my question?

Ahhh, I see...so when you said this just a few posts ago:

"Why are they having to resort to such a rich mixture? At least that explains why all of the EcoBoost tailpipes I have ever seen are all black with soot."

...you were not suggesting the same for the Navi, and certainly not implying it. Gee whiz, I don't know HOW I misunderstood you.

And regarding the WHITE plume you saw, it is very common for water vapor to condense or convert back to steam after startup, as the engine heat boils it off in just a few moments. If I recall, he had just started the engine and revved it. Makes sense, no?
 
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