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I believe the Aviator Press First Drive is in June - anyone know the date?

I'm excited to hear how well it drives. Fingers crosss, I would love to see a Lincoln grace the cover of Motor Trend this November when they release the SUV of the Year - I think Lincoln has a shot!
 

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Any updates on when the press first drive will be for the Aviator? Looking forward to the reviews coming out.
 

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I'm not sure, but there are a couple of driving reviews out now. I sent one on the 2020 Aviator thread, and then there's one from AutoVlog.
 

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Strange that they are already on sale and being shipped to dealers, but no press drives?
...”embargoed.” Blame Ford for lack of press drives. The only reviews are by actual dealer vehicles loaned out by the dealer. The autovlog video definitely showed the amazing luxury of the interior but was light on driving. I really would like Ford to release info on the GT version.
 

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Somehow Ford has it's first recall of the Explorer/Aviator, even before the Aviator has had its press coverage. I can't quite understand how in the **** the Aviator is in customer's hands already and the F'n embargo hasn't expired.
 

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Strange that they are already on sale and being shipped to dealers, but no press drives?
...”embargoed.” Blame Ford for lack of press drives. The only reviews are by actual dealer vehicles loaned out by the dealer. The autovlog video definitely showed the amazing luxury of the interior but was light on driving. I really would like Ford to release info on the GT version.
Ford is terrified the press will tear the Explorer apart - they did it to the last gen, to the point where Ford refused to provide them to MotorTrend and Car and Driver for other 3 row SUVs comparos.

I think they have a few reasons here - 1- they overpriced the new Explorer, so it will look less competitive 2- the hybrid model is not efficient at all, some of the early drives had already alluded to that and comparing to the 2020 Toyota Highlander - 23mpg vs 35mpg (both estimated)
 

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Ford is terrified the press will tear the Explorer apart - they did it to the last gen, to the point where Ford refused to provide them to MotorTrend and Car and Driver for other 3 row SUVs comparos.

I think they have a few reasons here - 1- they overpriced the new Explorer, so it will look less competitive 2- the hybrid model is not efficient at all, some of the early drives had already alluded to that and comparing to the 2020 Toyota Highlander - 23mpg vs 35mpg (both estimated)
Or they just want models to be at dealerships for people to go buy once reviews and an advertising push comes out, rather than what happened with the 2013 MKZ and SuperBowl ad which generated a ton of interest, but there weren't any at dealers.
 

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Ford is terrified the press will tear the Explorer apart - they did it to the last gen, to the point where Ford refused to provide them to MotorTrend and Car and Driver for other 3 row SUVs comparos.

I think they have a few reasons here - 1- they overpriced the new Explorer, so it will look less competitive 2- the hybrid model is not efficient at all, some of the early drives had already alluded to that and comparing to the 2020 Toyota Highlander - 23mpg vs 35mpg (both estimated)
You are a troll because you repeat the same BS, even after you have been corrected over and over.

And here I go again, correcting your fukin lies.....

1. Base price for Explorer is effectively the same, barely an increase
2. Explorer hybrid has far more power and towing ability, unlike the wimpy I4 Highlander, so that is a pathetic example and you know it


Sorry, your reasoning that Ford is 'afraid' is as wrong and pathetic as you are.
 

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Ford is terrified the press will tear the Explorer apart - they did it to the last gen, to the point where Ford refused to provide them to MotorTrend and Car and Driver for other 3 row SUVs comparos.

I think they have a few reasons here - 1- they overpriced the new Explorer, so it will look less competitive 2- the hybrid model is not efficient at all, some of the early drives had already alluded to that and comparing to the 2020 Toyota Highlander - 23mpg vs 35mpg (both estimated)
You are a troll because you repeat the same BS, even after you have been corrected over and over.

And here I go again, correcting your fukin lies.....

1. Base price for Explorer is effectively the same, barely an increase
2. Explorer hybrid has far more power and towing ability, unlike the wimpy I4 Highlander, so that is a pathetic example and you know it


Sorry, your reasoning that Ford is 'afraid' is as wrong and pathetic as you are.
Nope price is pushing too high, sales numbers will prove me right...the Explorer will lose the best selling title segment to the Highlander in 2020...

And moot point, most people tow ~3000lbs...your argument is dumb and restricted to a tiny piece of the [email protected] average one could simply buy a 2020 Highlander V6 that has the same towing capacity without the need for a hybrid....hybrids are supposed to be efficient, this one is not.
 

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Nope price is pushing too high, sales numbers will prove me right...the Explorer will lose the best selling title segment to the Highlander in 2020...

And moot point, most people tow ~3000lbs...your argument is dumb and restricted to a tiny piece of the [email protected] average one could simply buy a 2020 Highlander V6 that has the same towing capacity without the need for a hybrid....hybrids are supposed to be efficient, this one is not.

You are not too bright. Sales on the bottom end will remain, all while Ford offers more premium OPTIONS while grabbing uscale sales, including hybrids, in a more premium, RWD large SUV.....not a Camry derived snooze wagon. And guess what happens when your ATP moves so far upward? Yup.

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If sales of Explorer are a bit less, I would chalk that up to adding the Aviator on the same line. I think both will be sales and profit successes.
If I did buy an Explorer, first thing I'd do is install a grill guard to cover up the front.
By the time I am ready to buy again, I will not need three rows, so Bronco is looking like my best option.
 

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If sales of Explorer are a bit less, I would chalk that up to adding the Aviator on the same line. I think both will be sales and profit successes.
If I did buy an Explorer, first thing I'd do is install a grill guard to cover up the front.
By the time I am ready to buy again, I will not need three rows, so Bronco is looking like my best option.
Bronco and Aviator will indeed steal right from Explorer, being two all new entrants. Ford recognizes that, and given the choice of increasing TOTAL sales and TOTAL profits.......or maintaining sales champ crown by offering them cheap........yeah, that much is easy. But malaka boy can't understand how business works. Also too, Jeep sales will be hurting.
 

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Looks like the press drives should be happening later this month. Also, the power numbers are better than originally released.

autoblog.com/2019/08/12/lincoln-aviator-official-specs-more-power
 

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Looks like the press drives should be happening later this month. Also, the power numbers are better than originally released.

autoblog.com/2019/08/12/lincoln-aviator-official-specs-more-power
494/630 is pretty epic. Our CT6 PHEV does the qtr at 105 with a 2.0L turbo. I’d expect the Aviator to beat it easily, depending on aero. That is seriously fast.
 

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Looks like the press drives should be happening later this month. Also, the power numbers are better than originally released.

autoblog.com/2019/08/12/lincoln-aviator-official-specs-more-power
Thanks for the link:


"We were told at last year's L.A. Auto Show that the base 3.0-liter twin-turbo V6 would make 400 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque. Lincoln's spec sheet shows it’s still going to make 400 horsepower, but the torque figure is now up to 415 pound-feet. The plug-in hybrid model has received an even larger bump to its ratings. Lincoln said it would be 450 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque combined, but it’s actually going to be 494 horsepower and 630 pound-feet of torque. We were a bit slack-jawed at the numbers before, and this just takes it one step further."
 

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1. Base price for Explorer is effectively the same, barely an increase
That's a noticeable increase, specially for every trim above the base.
$2,275 increase for the XLT (base)
$5,365 increase for the Limited

I think it's a good SUV but I have to admit, they are getting pricey.

The Aviator is definitely an impressive luxury SUV.
 

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That's a noticeable increase, specially for every trim above the base.
$2,275 increase for the XLT (base)
$5,365 increase for the Limited

I think it's a good SUV but I have to admit, they are getting pricey.

The Aviator is definitely an impressive luxury SUV.
Thanks for the info.

But remember, Aviator more or less equals Explorer.
 

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That's a noticeable increase, specially for every trim above the base.
$2,275 increase for the XLT (base)
$5,365 increase for the Limited

I think it's a good SUV but I have to admit, they are getting pricey.

The Aviator is definitely an impressive luxury SUV.
The new Explorer, in its upscale versions, is on par and perfectly competitive with its direct rival: The Cadillac XT6 >:)

The Aviator will figth the Germans and Land Rover
 

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That's a noticeable increase, specially for every trim above the base.
$2,275 increase for the XLT (base)
$5,365 increase for the Limited

I think it's a good SUV but I have to admit, they are getting pricey.

The Aviator is definitely an impressive luxury SUV.
Thanks for the info.

But remember, Aviator more or less equals Explorer.
...in Europe it definitely is. The Explorer over there presumably gets the same 494/630 setup.
 
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