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Me thinks the GM troll is butt hurt that Lincoln put out such a great product.

I hear it blasts Cadillac's effort out of the water.

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Omg the resident fin baby is throwing another tantrum! Calling everyone trolls is getting lame. I commented on an article that falconlover posted. Rather than offering an intelligent response, u lash out. Typical.

And why bring up Cadillac? Did I design, engineer or even say that I like the XT6? You’re insecurity is showing lmfao
 

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Agreed. But I’ve only seen non-hybrid reviews.
I was talking about hybrid reviews. Of the ones I read (or watched), the Autoblog one was the only one to mention drive issues.
 

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Lots of video reviews out there already for the PHEV. I really enjoy them much more for this class of vehicle, because the reviewers emotions are heard in words that won't convey in print or metrics. And you get the benefit of better visual and sounds. This one below is very positive, claiming the $3K cost for the PHEV option is well worth the money. PHEV is the way forward for me in the near term. If you live 20 miles or less from work, and can charge at work, you drive without filling up through the week. And travel, something I would love to do with this, does not become a challenge to plan out, worrying about range, charging, etc. Best of all worlds.

Congrats to Lincoln. Well done.

 

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Yes he’s a good reviewer but not super thorough. And he and his wife both own Cadillacs so we know he has good taste.

Good review. But I’d take a telluride any day over this...just couldn’t look at that navigator...er, sorry, aviator front or butt everyday
 

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All high level reviews....I want to see a really good in depth review, this is concerning:
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Well, in terms of acceleration, at least. There are actually some drivability issues. The throttle is difficult to modulate smoothly from a start, at least when driving in hybrid mode with the plug-in battery portion fully drained. No matter how slowly and progressively we toe the pedal, there's a slight jerking as if the gasoline and electric motors aren't entirely getting along. The brake pedal is also a little bitey relative to the gas-only Aviator, which isn't unusual for a hybrid and is more easily acclimated to than the throttle.

All that extra battery weight also negatively impacts the ride due to the need for firmer spring rates. Despite riding on smaller wheels than the gas-only Aviator we drove, the Grand Touring has a somewhat nervous ride that transmits little road imperfections into the cabin.
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I am wondering how much it would detract from the experience, this is not the kind of thing that a $90k buyer expects to experience in their brand new vehicle and a detailed review would be able to crack this open more.
 

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If you live 20 miles or less from work, and can charge at work, you drive without filling up through the week.
My daily commute is less than 3 miles one way.

It's actually sad that this is going to be my mother's vehicle. :laugh2:

On short drives, this Avi will really shine. I often get into stop&go on my short commute due to traffic lights and my engine on my Q7 never really gets up to temperature which results in a really crappy gas-mileage...
 

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Good review. But I’d take a telluride any day over this...
You'll have some issues with that one as well. First of all, if you want the light high-end interior on the Telli, you're not going to get it. Order/production-stop 'til the end of the year due to supply-issues.

Second, if you actually find a well equipped SX right now, be prepared to pay $5-10K OVER sticker.

And since you mentioned the Telluride:

https://youtu.be/_v_VXcxWgPM?t=280
 
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Yes he’s a good reviewer but not super thorough. And he and his wife both own Cadillacs so we know he has good taste.

Good review. But I’d take a telluride any day over this...just couldn’t look at that navigator...er, sorry, aviator front or butt everyday



I respect all personal opinions and choices, but prefer a KIA Telluride over a Lincoln Aviator (the best Lincoln ever, a vehicle that is actually on par with Audi, Volvo, Mercedes-Benz and BMW) cause this on me: :lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:
 

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All high level reviews....I want to see a really good in depth review, this is concerning:
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Well, in terms of acceleration, at least. There are actually some drivability issues. The throttle is difficult to modulate smoothly from a start, at least when driving in hybrid mode with the plug-in battery portion fully drained. No matter how slowly and progressively we toe the pedal, there's a slight jerking as if the gasoline and electric motors aren't entirely getting along. The brake pedal is also a little bitey relative to the gas-only Aviator, which isn't unusual for a hybrid and is more easily acclimated to than the throttle.

All that extra battery weight also negatively impacts the ride due to the need for firmer spring rates. Despite riding on smaller wheels than the gas-only Aviator we drove, the Grand Touring has a somewhat nervous ride that transmits little road imperfections into the cabin.
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I am wondering how much it would detract from the experience, this is not the kind of thing that a $90k buyer expects to experience in their brand new vehicle and a detailed review would be able to crack this open more.
I don't understand Autoblog's comments. They're the only one that I've seen that says anything negative about the GT model. Everything else I've seen has been positive and highly complimented its drive.
 

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Agreed. But I’ve only seen non-hybrid reviews.
I was talking about hybrid reviews. Of the ones I read (or watched), the Autoblog one was the only one to mention drive issues.
...Motor1.com’s review also noted the issues, and noted that 500/630 will still probably only get you 5.5 to 60. Every reviewer stated the PHEV didn’t seem any faster at all. I was seriously interested in the GT, but it doesn’t sound like it will live up to the big numbers.

****, the Cayenne PHEV is much faster for about the same price, with less hp/tq, minus some of the lux goodies and in a slightly smaller package.
 

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You'll have some issues with that one as well. First of all, if you want the light high-end interior on the Telli, you're not going to get it. Order/production-stop 'til the end of the year due to supply-issues.

Second, if you actually find a well equipped SX right now, be prepared to pay $5-10K OVER sticker.

And since you mentioned the Telluride:

https://youtu.be/_v_VXcxWgPM?t=280
Actually I’m leaning towards palisade now. Smoke with a pearl interior. I just keep waffling because I like the traditional shifter in the t-ride, but palisade interior. I’m thinking next summer so no rush.

Kia/Hyundai did a brilliant job in the design and engineering of these. They cribbed a lot of features but their blind view cameras that display in the instrument panel, exit assist and seatbelt notification for all positions really stand out for me because of the kids I transport on the regular. I’m impressed with the attention to detail. And the price is incredible compared to the other meh vehicles out there. Both aviator and especially, xt6, are too expensive for what u get imo.
 

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Yes he’s a good reviewer but not super thorough. And he and his wife both own Cadillacs so we know he has good taste.

Good review. But I’d take a telluride any day over this...just couldn’t look at that navigator...er, sorry, aviator front or butt everyday



I respect all personal opinions and choices, but prefer a KIA Telluride over a Lincoln Aviator (the best Lincoln ever, a vehicle that is actually on par with Audi, Volvo, Mercedes-Benz and BMW) cause this on me:
Several reviewers compared the interior of it to the Audi Q7 and BMW X7...except, it happens to be a lot cheaper.
 

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...Motor1.com’s review also noted the issues, and noted that 500/630 will still probably only get you 5.5 to 60. Every reviewer stated the PHEV didn’t seem any faster at all. I was seriously interested in the GT, but it doesn’t sound like it will live up to the big numbers.

****, the Cayenne PHEV is much faster for about the same price, with less hp/tq, minus some of the lux goodies and in a slightly smaller package.
I finally got around to reading Motor1’s review. They likened it to a “four wheeled fat thor” lmao!!

Anyway, as I said earlier, I hope they get any issues sorted out soon. Ford was smart to partner with Rivan...they can help with the EV part of the engineering.
 

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How many luxury CUV's allow you to drive to work all week, without using the ICE depending on range, and unlimited range on weekends while leaving your electric cord at home. Not too many. That is the whole idea of this Grand Touring Lincoln. No limitations. Some here will either never get that, or just ignore in their trolling efforts.
 

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How many luxury CUV's allow you to drive to work all week, without using the ICE depending on range, and unlimited range on weekends while leaving your electric cord at home. Not too many. That is the whole idea of this Grand Touring Lincoln. No limitations. Some here will either never get that, or just ignore in their trolling efforts.
...Cayenne e-hybrid, BMW X5, Volvo XC90.

The X5 also has a 24kWh battery and 50mi of range. ****, my CT6 goes 30mi on a charge. This would be a big step back for my family with 18mi of range.

What I don’t get is an engineer stated that 20mi of range wouldn’t cut it any more and to expect more. Then, bam 18 mi of range. /sigh

Maybe the Mach-E won’t disappoint and Ford will finally produce something I can give them money for.
 
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