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Links for 2019my Order Guides...
...later in this thread or in other threads
HUGE amount of info^^^ Thanks @Topnotch :thumb: :thumb:

FORD________________________
2019my Fiesta & ST, Edge, Explorer, Taurus - post#48
2019my Fusions - post#43
2019my Mustang - post#24
2019my Flex & SuperDuty OGs - post#23
2019my Police Responder (Fusion-Hybrid) - Leading in Electrification thread, Aug'17

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2019my Nautilus & Nautilus [BL] - post#44
2019my MKZ - post#48
2019my MKC + [BL] - post#31

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2019my Ranger - 8/13/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 11/26/18
2019my Expedition - 9/17/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 11/19/18 OR? 7/18, 10/15?
2019my F-150 ------ 8/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 10/18/18
2019my Escape ----- 7/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 10/8/18 ...vs MKC
2019my Fiesta ------ 6/13/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 9/17/18
2019my Taurus ----- 6/11/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 9/10/18
2019my Explorer --- 6/11/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 9/10/18
2019my Ecosport --- 5/14/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 9/3/18 OrderBANK delay: 6/11 ...add ~30d
2019my Fusion ----- 5/14/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 8/13/18 UPdate
2019my Edge ------- 4/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 7/9/18 see Re-re-X
2019my Fusion ----- 3/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 6/11/18
2019my Mustang --- 3/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 6/11/18 minor delay: 3/26–6/13
2019my Flex -------- 2/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 5/14/18
END of production for the 2018 Focus = 5/3/18


2019my nautiluX REreVISED 6/13/2018 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 9/4/2018
2019my MKZ REVISED 5/14/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 8/13/18 - like Fusion, known since Jan.
2019my nautiluX REVISED] 5/15/2018 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 8/13/2018
2019my MKC REVISED 2/12/2018 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 5/7/2018
2019my Navigator - 9/17/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 11/19/18 OR? 7/18, 10/15?
2019my Continental - 7/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 10/1/18
2019my MKX - 4/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 7/9/18 ...I believe they mean NAUTILUS

2019my MKZ - 3/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 6/11/18
2019my MKT - 2/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 5/14/18 :facepalm:
2019my MKC - 2/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 4/30/18


old info
2019my MKT/Flex - 02/11/2018 approx.OG & opening of OrderBank
2019MY MKT/Flex - 05/14/2018 - Job 1
2019my Lincoln MKC - 02/14/2018 approx.OG & opening of OrderBank
2019MY Lincoln MKC - 04/30/2018 - Job 1
2019my Navi/Expedition - 01/17/2018 approx.OG & opening of OrderBank
2019MY Navi/Expedition - 03/26/2018 - Job 1

2018my Navi/Expedition - Job 1 = 09/25/17, final orders due 08/03/18
Final production of Focus/C-Max @ MAP is shown as May 3, 2018
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-- (Donlen cars, trucks/SCuvs):

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2018 ModelYear Order Guides
2017 ModelYear Order Guides
2016 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2015 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2014 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2013 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2012 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2011 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2010 ModelYear Order Guides - working
2009 ModelYear Order Guides - BROKEN LINK
2008 ModelYear Order Guides - working
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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

I wonder if Continental will get the new 8-speed transmission for MY2019?
 

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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

upDATEd 1st post
& wondering if 2019my will start earlier than last modelyear
** the death of C-Max and FocUS
2/02/2018 - 2018MY Fleet Final Order Due date
5/03/2018 - 2018MY Job-LAST date
also wondering about grossly diff dates for:
2019my Escape - 7/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 10/8/18
2019my MKC ---- 2/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 4/30/18
what the...
...mentioning my rant about Escape moving while MKC stays in Louisville...

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upDATEd 1st post
& wondering if 2019my will start earlier than last modelyear
** the death of C-Max and FocUS
2/02/2018 - 2018MY Fleet Final Order Due date
5/03/2018 - 2018MY Job-LAST date
also wondering about grossly diff dates for:
2019my Escape - 7/16/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 10/8/18
2019my MKC ---- 2/12/18 OG/Bank, Job 1 = 4/30/18
what the...
...mentioning my rant about Escape moving while MKC stays in Louisville...

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Maybe they want to get the new MKC out there as soon as possible, while Escape hasn’t really changed much from ‘18 to ‘19, so they aren’t in as much of a rush to get it out there? Just a guess.
 

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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

I find the fall Job 1’s for some 2019’s odd...why so late?

Also, does the absence of the Flex 2019 Job 1 here mean it’s dead?! Looks like the MKT will carry on for livery. Originally they both were supposed to stop production Dec 2018 according to that one report a year back, I wonder if it’s changed.

Finally, looks like there will be a 2019 Fiesta after all! Makes sense to fill in for the Focus while it’s on hiatus.
 

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2018/02/08/ford-transit-connect-gets-a-diesel-for-2019-but-where-else-will-it-go/#7c33b7de18bd


While talking about diesel engines... a probable Lincoln crossover based on the EcoSport.


Interesting...Should we start throwing names?
So what???? Lincoln crossover based on EcoSport? I think the EcoSport is the worst vehicle in the Ford line up rigth now, in USA and in Europe. Is old, with low tech, with dismal quality... ugly... Is a crazy and a very bad idea.
 

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Considering the current buying trend, it's probably going to happen anyway. If they're going to to that. It better be GLA or Q3 quality. Not just a badge-engineered EcoSport.


 

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I think it will going to happen, but not based on the current EcoSport. Lincoln could make a new small crossover using the next Focus-based crossover and/or the next B size crossover (next gen EcoSport). I think Lincoln needs , before that small crossover, a coupe-like new CUV like the Mercedes-Benz GLC Coupe or BMW X4. I dont know if the volume will allow Lincoln to make a Nautilus size CUV coupe, but this kind of vehicle is a must for a luxury carmaker.
 

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Considering that the MK4 Focus is coming quite late to the United States, I have thought about a current 2018 Focus or 2018 Fiesta. I've heard that the transmission issues aren't as bad, and they're still decent cars. What bothers me is this...(attachment) Why should I be forced to get a black interior in the SE Fiesta if I want navigation?

Also you cannot get navigation on an SE Focus.
 

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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

Interesting to see 2019 MKC is happening fairly early in the year.

As for an EcoSport-based Lincoln, that would be a trick I'd like to see unfold.

As for the Flex, MKT and Taurus sticking around yet another year unchanged, it seems likely now that the cars will be here at least through MY 2020 and likely replaced by the next Explorer/Aviator. The trick will be to see if they keep Taurus production alongside the NG Explorer. MKT and Flex may be around until some product replaces it in Oakville.
 

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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

A subcompact CUV really won't do well with Lincoln right now because their target market is still too old for such a small cuv. Lincoln will need to change their focus to attract the sub 40 consumer, which means adding luxury performance. But Lincoln will need a halo luxury performance model to kick that all off and that's riding on the next gen MKZ. If Lincoln offers a true C-Class/3-Series competitor in sedan, coupe and convertible, and an EV option for each model, then we know Lincoln is ready to compete globally with the leaders. But if they try to go between models with size and stay 'Quiet', then a 40+ niche brand Lincoln will remain.
 

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Buick and Lincoln share SOME entry-level American luxury customers and the Encore does extremely well so it's not hard to imagine Lincoln doing this, but it's not something I would have expected Lincoln to do at this point. Their brand has been very focused on reinforcing their traditional luxury values and moving it upmarket and it's very hard to achieve those in entry-level products. But I would not be surprised if many people buying the EcoSport are retirees looking to downsize which would be an opportunity for Lincoln. China is also a big factor so it's possible it could be a Chinese product primarily/only. But obviously Ford has a long way to go before EcoSport is considered competitive.
 

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A subcompact CUV really won't do well with Lincoln right now because their target market is still too old for such a small cuv.
But this IS the way to lower the age of your target market!


It will not be the EcoSport that Lincoln uses. It will be the new Focus based CUV that will be smaller than Escape.
Escape is moving up in size a bit.
 

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As for the Flex, MKT and Taurus sticking around yet another year unchanged, it seems likely now that the cars will be here at least through MY 2020 and likely replaced by the next Explorer/Aviator. The trick will be to see if they keep Taurus production alongside the NG Explorer. MKT and Flex may be around until some product replaces it in Oakville.
A few years back one industry forecasting report had the Flex (D471) and MKT (D472) EOP (end of production) dates extended from Dec 2015 to Dec 2018. If this still is accurate they might be making 2019's until then and that's it!

Oddly they reported Taurus (D258) EOP to have been extended to June 2023! (from June 2017)

This same report had the current Explorer EOP in Dec 2018 and the new Explorer (U625) and Aviator (U611) starting in Jan 2016. (I think more recent reports has the SOP around April 2019 now)

Would Ford really still make the D3 Taurus along the new CD6 based Explorer/Aviator? Just enough for the Police market maybe?

http://www.fordinsidenews.com/forums/5-ford-motor-company-discussion/17434-ford-lincoln-product-forecast-updated.html
 

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But this IS the way to lower the age of your target market!

It will not be the EcoSport that Lincoln uses. It will be the new Focus based CUV that will be smaller than Escape.
Escape is moving up in size a bit.
Lincoln has said for a while they would not go below the current MKC's entry price point ($34,000+) It makes sense as Ford keeps adding higher trims and price points to their lineup...let Lincoln establish a true premium lineup, with less overlap with Ford. Might sell less but at higher ATP's, and gain a reputation as a true luxury maker.
The wild card is China...if the Chinese market demands an entry Lincoln then they will do so....it just may not come here!
 

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Lincoln has said for a while they would not go below the current MKC's entry price point ($34,000+)
Yes, notice they said price point, not size.


The next gen escape/MKC will grow larger, and the starting price will likely rise. That leaves the 34K entry price point for the new CUV that will be somewhat smaller than the current Escape/MKC.
 

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Re: F-L 2019my OGs - basically DATES for now

Yes, notice they said price point, not size.

The next gen escape/MKC will grow larger, and the starting price will likely rise. That leaves the 34K entry price point for the new CUV that will be somewhat smaller than the current Escape/MKC.
OR...
they could keep the "MKC" nameplate on their smallest Cuvlet (since the architecture is changing anyway)
which
imho would make it easier to boost the price of the slightly larger Cuvlet WHICH
would wind-up being very close in size to the MACAN

btw, the new 2019my BMW X4 is growing from Macan length to previous-MKX length
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