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Reposting a post I put in this thread a while back about the taillights.

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Some observations I made today. The production Continental either has incredible camouflage or it has adopted new rear styling akin to the MKX rather than the Continental concept. Check out this comparison of tail lights.

PRODUCTION CONTINENTAL SPIED:


CONTINENTAL CONCEPT


PRODUCTION MKX
 

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Reposting a post I put in this thread a while back about the taillights.

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Some observations I made today. The production Continental either has incredible camouflage or it has adopted new rear styling akin to the MKX rather than the Continental concept. Check out this comparison of tail lights.

PRODUCTION CONTINENTAL SPIED:


CONTINENTAL CONCEPT


PRODUCTION MKX
Looks like camo to me. The lights seem disjointed and Ford has done camo trick like this in the past
 

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In the concept, the tailligths aré chromed . Of course, those ligths cant be incorporated to the production car. They aré red , not made in chrome
 

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Lincoln Continental to be Made at Ford's Flat Rock Plant

Lincoln Continental to be Made at Ford's Flat Rock Plant
Detroit Free Press
July 15, 2015
By: Alisa Priddle


Ford confirmed Wednesday that the all-new Lincoln Continental full-size sedan slated to go on sale next year will be built at its Flat Rock plant in Michigan.

The Detroit Free Press reported in 2012 that the replacement for the Lincoln MKS would be built in Flat Rock. But today's confirmation of the plans by John Fleming, head of global manufacturing, at an event in Dearborn, is significant because plant decisions have become bargaining tools in UAW negotiations for a new collective agreement.

The Flat Rock plant makes the Ford Mustang as well as the Ford Fusion. It has the capacity and flexibility to add another vehicle and the Continental is expected to be built on a stretched version of the underpinnings of the Fusion.

"The Flat Rock Assembly Plant will now produce three important vehicles for Ford," said Akshay Anand, analyst for Kelley Blue Book. "With many products shifting production outside the United States, it's good to see Ford committed to keeping its flagship vehicle stateside. If the production version of the Continental has many of the features we saw in the concept, consumers will definitely take notice, both in the United States and areas such as China."

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Just like I said we have seen this same trick before and some of you said the Mkx taillights were different. This car is gonna be the concept with less chrome and little less dramatic proportions. Then there's the fact that they've got padding at the shoulder line to hide the shape of the body (read especially).
 

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Just like I said we have seen this same trick before and some of you said the Mkx taillights were different. This car is gonna be the concept with less chrome and little less dramatic proportions. Then there's the fact that they've got padding at the shoulder line to hide the shape of the body (read especially).
The TLs are a different shape, it's not camo, and it's consistent with current Lincoln designs anyway so it makes sense. You can always tell the difference between the outline and the camo decals and paint, you just have to look closely. The MKX above is a good example of decals that don't obscure the actual physical outlines, to my eyes the production details are completely visible on those prototypes. Although it's not the concept, it still may look quite slick on the production car. And indeed the shoulders are padded but that has been the case since the original prototypes, we've seen Ford do this before on their trucks in particular, although in this case it's probably designed to hide integrated door handles in the window sill (or something like that). It will look much like the concept but different in some areas like always, the overall shape and major details features should be recognizable unless you're like us comparing proportions and tailight shapes. For example the production car headlights closely match the shape and details of the concept, so why change the look of the TLs so significantly to fool people but leave the other details alone?
 

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^ Read this too, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see all Lincoln production in the US.
Agree, if/when FLincMoCo gets all** their vehicles on just 2 platforms (D6CD6 and A.M.P).
Wonder if a Lincoln exclusive plant will be possible? ...maybe just halves of two plants?

** not counting Navi, but then that's here already
 

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the ContiConc's TLs are close to being UN-styled - just slightly (deliciously) more than a bare minimum
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that applies to much of the car

just an observation :angel fwiw
The TLs are a different shape, it's not camo, and it's consistent with current Lincoln designs anyway so it makes sense. You can always tell the difference between the outline and the camo decals and paint, you just have to look closely. The MKX above is a good example of decals that don't obscure the actual physical outlines, to my eyes the production details are completely visible on those prototypes. Although it's not the concept, it still may look quite slick on the production car. And indeed the shoulders are padded but that has been the case since the original prototypes, we've seen Ford do this before on their trucks in particular, although in this case it's probably designed to hide integrated door handles in the window sill (or something like that). It will look much like the concept but different in some areas like always, the overall shape and major details features should be recognizable unless you're like us comparing proportions.
should the production TLs be different from the ContiConc...

...I'm starting to hope they can be even better

(( for the record, I prolley wouldn't consider X-ish ones better ))
 

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Re: Lincoln Continental to be Made at Ford's Flat Rock Plant

just in case anyone would like compare wording...

Lincoln Continental To Be Built At Ford’s Flat Rock Plant In Michigan
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By Viknesh Vijayenthiran
July 16, 2015

Lincoln is in the process of overhauling its lineup, as well as introducing some brand new additions, and the next model we’re likely to see is a flagship sedan that will revive the Continental nameplate...

Speaking with The Wall Street Journal, Ford global manufacturing chief John Fleming said the Continental would be built at Ford’s Flat Rock Assembly Plant in Michigan...

The Continental built at Flat Rock is expected to look almost identical to the concept, which proved a hit at its 2015 New York Auto Show debut. A long-wheelbase version is also in development but this one will be sold exclusively in China. It’s likely to be built at the same plant in China where the Chinese-spec Ford Taurus is assembled.

Lincoln hasn’t set a firm date for the launch of its new Continental, stating only that it arrives in 2016.

Lincoln Continental to be Made at Ford's Flat Rock Plant
Detroit Free Press
July 15, 2015
By: Alisa Priddle

Ford confirmed Wednesday that the all-new Lincoln Continental full-size sedan slated to go on sale next year will be built at its Flat Rock plant in Michigan.

The Detroit Free Press reported in 2012 that the replacement for the Lincoln MKS would be built in Flat Rock. But today's confirmation of the plans by John Fleming, head of global manufacturing, at an event in Dearborn, is significant because plant decisions have become bargaining tools in UAW negotiations for a new collective agreement.

The Flat Rock plant makes the Ford Mustang as well as the Ford Fusion. It has the capacity and flexibility to add another vehicle and the Continental is expected to be built on a stretched version of the underpinnings of the Fusion.

"The Flat Rock Assembly Plant will now produce three important vehicles for Ford," said Akshay Anand, analyst for Kelley Blue Book. "With many products shifting production outside the United States, it's good to see Ford committed to keeping its flagship vehicle stateside. If the production version of the Continental has many of the features we saw in the concept, consumers will definitely take notice, both in the United States and areas such as China."

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It doesn't quite make sense to produce the Continental in two plants if two of those plants are producing cars for China and only 1 for the smaller US market, does it? It seems like they should just build Continental for US at Flatrock and both versions of the Continental in China, or both versions at Flatrock and just export them together. But who knows, dealing with China is a strange mix of cost-ineffecient regulations that are typically worth the hassle.

It seems likely at this point that Flatrock is not building a new Taurus however since it is not coming up as part of the negotiations. This is another signal to me that we are not getting a new Taurus. Maybe we'll find out more next week when real negotiations begin. They don't want to expand Flatrock's capacity which would be needed for Taurus unless they pull the Fusion out, and it would be a huge bargaining chip.
 

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Just like I said we have seen this same trick before and some of you said the Mkx taillights were different. This car is gonna be the concept with less chrome and little less dramatic proportions. Then there's the fact that they've got padding at the shoulder line to hide the shape of the body (read especially).
The TLs are a different shape, it's not camo, and it's consistent with current Lincoln designs anyway so it makes sense. You can always tell the difference between the outline and the camo decals and paint, you just have to look closely. The MKX above is a good example of decals that don't obscure the actual physical outlines, to my eyes the production details are completely visible on those prototypes. Although it's not the concept, it still may look quite slick on the production car. And indeed the shoulders are padded but that has been the case since the original prototypes, we've seen Ford do this before on their trucks in particular, although in this case it's probably designed to hide integrated door handles in the window sill (or something like that). It will look much like the concept but different in some areas like always, the overall shape and major details features should be recognizable unless you're like us comparing proportions and tailight shapes. For example the production car headlights closely match the shape and details of the concept, so why change the look of the TLs so significantly to fool people but leave the other details alone?
They did obscure the HLs. In one of those close up pics u can see tape place around them to make them look longer just like they did for the TLs. It's under heavy camo so who knows but I highly doubt that Lincoln would make the lights bigger seeing as the Mkx has smaller TLs the Conti.
 

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Why no long wheelbase for US? Every flagship deserve a longer model for passengers and if u develop one for a specific country why not do it for all markets?
 

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Why no long wheelbase for US? Every flagship deserve a longer model for passengers and if u develop one for a specific country why not do it for all markets?
With rare exception we drive our cars here and those exceptions aren't likely to be the Lincoln buying types at this point. The LWB Continental is going to be the one with the crazy back seat amenities, which maybe 0.00000000001000000020000089% of US buyers would pay for. In China it very well could be the volume seller. The market for those LWB cars the Germans sell is still small and Lincoln the brand isn't anymore ready to compete for those sales than Cadillac the brand is ready to go toe to toe with BMW even if the cars are.
 

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With rare exception we drive our cars here and those exceptions aren't likely to be the Lincoln buying types at this point. The LWB Continental is going to be the one with the crazy back seat amenities, which maybe 0.00000000001000000020000089% of US buyers would pay for. In China it very well could be the volume seller. The market for those LWB cars the Germans sell is still small and Lincoln the brand isn't anymore ready to compete for those sales than Cadillac the brand is ready to go toe to toe with BMW even if the cars are.
True, what sells well in China is the LWB 3-Series and C-Class. Otherwise the larger 5-Series/E-Class and 120+ wheelbase 7-Series/S-Class are large enough. Lincoln does not have a 3-Series/C-Class competitor until what may be the New MKZ for MY2018/19.
 

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Spy Shots: 2017 Lincoln Continental
A little less the Bentley clone?
by Jim Dunne on Jul.21, 2015

Lincoln’s reentry into the premium luxury sedan market begins early next year when Ford Motor Co. takes the wraps – make that the jigsaw camouflage - off of the production version of the 2017 Continental.

While we’ll have to wait to see the final sheet metal, our spies captured some first images of this road-going prototype undergoing testing. One of the biggest questions has been whether the final version will be so nearly as much Bentley-esque as the concept version that made its surprise debut at the New York Auto Show in April.

But from what we can see through the camo, you can spot some major differences between the 2017 Lincoln Continental and the Bentley Flying Spur. So, maybe the U.S. maker will have cut some of its stamping dies, after all.

Compared to the Concept Continental, we see rear fenders that are higher, rear quarter windows that have sharper angles, a front end that is more blunt, headlights that are horizontal and rectangular, and a belt line offering less slope at the rear.


Though in camouflage, the prototype Continental clearly opts for a front-drive powertrain.

The spy shot appears to answer one of the big questions that surfaced during the New York Auto Show: what sort of drivetrain the new Lincoln would use. As you can spot, the camo’d Continental goes with front-wheel-drive, in line with the old MKS and smaller MKZ models, while the Bentley maintains a traditional rear-drive layout.

That said, we’d be shocked if Lincoln didn’t add an all-wheel-drive option considering that’s a major selling feature, especially in the Northeast and Midwest.

Other observations:
•The production Continental’s grille appears bolder, with less finesse in its outline and frame;
•Its wheels offer seven pairs of spokes while the Lincoln show car offers even spacing between multiple spokes;
•But is there something going on with those heavily concealed door handles? Are they a pop-out type?

What's with the door handles?

As to what we do know about the new 2017 Lincoln Continental, this is far more than just a replacement for the outgoing MKS sedan. It will move Lincoln up-market, in line with rival Cadillac’s new CT6 flagship sedan.

It will be produced at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant where the Continental will roll down the line alongside the Ford Mustang and Fusion models. The Flat Rock plant was originally operated as part of a joint venture between Ford and Mazda Motor Co. But Mazda pulled out several years ago as Ford sold off most of its holdings in the Japanese maker.

The Continental will be the largest and, Ford hopes, most prestigious model in the Lincoln line-up. Observers view it as something of a last-ditch attempt to prove that the brand can directly compete with not only Cadillac but the imports that now dominate the U.S. luxury market, Audi, BMW, Lexus and Mercedes-Benz.

The Lincoln Continental at its NY debut.

The 2017 Lincoln Continental not only adopts a dramatically different design language from other recent models the brand has introduced, it also abandons the so-called split-wing grille introduced only a few years ago on the redesigned Lincoln MKZ.

The new flagship also marks a shift away from the controversial naming strategy Lincoln has adopted, using the letters MK in all models but the big Navigator SUV. Company officials have explained that they wanted something distinctive considering the role the new Continental will play – though some observers believe Ford may now walk away from the MK nomenclature.

The new Continental will debut shortly after Cadillac makes its own push back into the premium luxury segment – taking on such stalwarts as the Mercedes S-Class – with the all-new CT6 sedan. The Caddy flagship will offer several powertrain options, though notably no V-8, instead opting for a top-line twin-turbo V-6, as well as a high-power plug-in hybrid, for its performance versions. The Cadillac CT6 will be offered in both rear- and all-wheel configurations.

http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2015/07/spy-shots-2017-lincoln-continental/
 
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