Ford Inside News banner

1 - 20 of 85 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #4
Ford brass mentioned in their electrification meeting, that Tesla model 3 owners were asked if they would they trade it in for a BMW 3 series, if it were free. Nearly all said no thanks. They likened it to going back to a flip phone, after having an iphone. I think that got Ford's attention.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,933 Posts
Alleged CAD leak:
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #7
That's pretty much it. It incorporates the silhouette perfectly. The front end is identical to the images Ford shared. The rear 3-bar light treatment from Mustang is well showcased. It has sort of a new Puma stance, where it's SUVish height is hidden.


When Ford first showed a clay model of this to employees, I did not like it. This is much improved from what that looked like, and it is really beginning to grow on me.

At first I did not like the 'Mustang' look, but now I think it was brilliant. This would not look as good as an Explorer face, or the like
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
545 Posts
Ford brass mentioned in their electrification meeting, that Tesla model 3 owners were asked if they would they trade it in for a BMW 3 series, if it were free. Nearly all said no thanks. They likened it to going back to a flip phone, after having an iphone. I think that got Ford's attention.
...people think you’re being a fanboy when you tell people how great living with an EV is. They just can’t imagine it is that much better. It is.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #10
...people think you’re being a fanboy when you tell people how great living with an EV is. They just can’t imagine it is that much better. It is.
Well, I am sure BEV owners understand. It's easy to be sceptical and very difficult to change such old ways.

That said, I will surely weigh all factors when I consider a purchase when available. First and foremost will be price. I honestly don't care if these things sprint to 60 in half a second. Nobody should be driving like that anyway. And 200 miles or 300 mile range is way down on my priority list. I would not be traveling distance anyway.

That said, my wife will be needing a new lease in about a year when this launches. It makes a perfect second car for her. I will certainly consider it.

BTW, Ford said their plan is to be profitable with this car. Good news, but that suggests price will not be modest. I am expecting about a $50K starting price.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
545 Posts
...people think you’re being a fanboy when you tell people how great living with an EV is. They just can’t imagine it is that much better. It is.
Well, I am sure BEV owners understand. It's easy to be sceptical and very difficult to change such old ways.

That said, I will surely weigh all factors when I consider a purchase when available. First and foremost will be price. I honestly don't care if these things sprint to 60 in half a second. Nobody should be driving like that anyway. And 200 miles or 300 mile range is way down on my priority list. I would not be traveling distance anyway.

That said, my wife will be needing a new lease in about a year when this launches. It makes a perfect second car for her. I will certainly consider it.

BTW, Ford said their plan is to be profitable with this car. Good news, but that suggests price will not be modest. I am expecting about a $50K starting price.
...I was figuring more like $65k+ for an AWD LR Perf, which is entirely reasonable. ****, a Polestar 2 will be $70k with a Perf Pack.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #12
Ford will certainly offer high trim models easily eclipsing $65K, but my thinking is that they will have an entry point for marketing reasons around $49,995 or something like that.

We shall see, hopefully on November 17.
But I think how well Ford does with their F150 will really be interesting. I have no idea where pricing will fall for that. But the way brass talks about it, they want it to simply fit into all their other truck strategies, depending on what you need. It will be billed as just another option. Which makes sense. Not much margin in an all new exclusive platform, just to get a bit more range. Trucks will have massive batteries and plenty of electric power to get work done.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,692 Posts
Ford will certainly offer high trim models easily eclipsing $65K, but my thinking is that they will have an entry point for marketing reasons around $49,995 or something like that.
So this will go against the Tesla Model Y?
The Model Y starts at $48K, a base model priced under $40K will be added in 2021.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
545 Posts
^
That's my thinking, although it appears to be much bigger and closer in size to the X
...I doubt it. The X is pretty big because it is bulbous. I expect a Y sized interior, or just marginally smaller. X is 88cu ft with the seats down, Y is 66. So, an X has more room than an Explorer. I figure right around Y or a ft or two less.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #16
...I doubt it. The X is pretty big because it is bulbous. I expect a Y sized interior, or just marginally smaller. X is 88cu ft with the seats down, Y is 66. So, an X has more room than an Explorer. I figure right around Y or a ft or two less.
Mach is Edge sized. I stood next to it. Bigger than Y I am pretty sure.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2,692 Posts
^
That's my thinking, although it appears to be much bigger and closer in size to the X
The Model X at 198.3 inches long and 78.7 inches wide is about the size of an Explorer but lower.

I'm guessing the "Mach E" will be more of a Model Y competitor.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
10,933 Posts
Discussion Starter #18
The Model X at 198.3 inches long and 78.7 inches wide is about the size of an Explorer but lower.

I'm guessing the "Mach E" will be more of a Model Y competitor.

If my visual proportions are correct, the Mach E I stood next too was Edge sized (L x W) but a bit lower.

So Edge today is 189" x 76"

From what I can find, Tesla Y is 185" x 73.5" (width dim was scaled from Tesla X length to width ratio, as I could not find an actual dim)

I would say Mach will be far larger than Y, and somewhere between Y and X.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
545 Posts
Does anyone here know if this will be made in RHD/global?
...don’t think so. Fairly certain this is NA. VW MEB based cars are slated for Europe, from what I gather. Don’t know about RoW. I guess if it is a hit, they’ll probably offer it elsewhere.
 
1 - 20 of 85 Posts
Top