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a NEW idea :angel ...thanks (tho NoBlame) to
This is what Lincoln's revival would be to my tastes (It's a bit different from last time):

First off, Lincoln's revival lineup would go from the city car (leaving a gap in subcompact) to extra-fullsize segment in cars, and compact to extra-fullsize in CUVs and SUVs. The lineups would be as such:
Lincoln Futura-city car to compete with Mini and Buick's supposed version of Opel Adam. Available in three and five doors.
Lincoln Versailles-compact car based on Focus to compete with ATS successor, C-class, IS, and ILX. Available as coupe, sedan, hatch, wagon, and convertible.
Lincoln Zephyr-midsize car, to compete with TLX, E-class, A6, Regal, CTS successor, and GS. Available as a sedan, liftback, wagon, and convertible.
Lincoln Continental-fullsize, to compete with RLX, S-class, A8, LaCrosse, CT6, LS, ES, G90, K900. Available as a sedan and wagon.
Lincoln Continental Mark IX-personal luxury fullsize car. Available as a coupe and convertible
Lincoln Continental Town Car-extra fullsize, to compete with S-class LWB, A8L, CT8, LS460L. Available as a sedan and wagon.
Lincoln Cosmopolitan-MKC successor, to compete with GLC, NX, RDX, Q5.
Lincoln Sentinel-MKX successor, to compete with GLE, RX, MDX, Q7.
Lincoln Aviator, MKT successor, to compete with Enclave, Range Rover.
Lincoln Aviator Navicross, long wheelbase Aviator, to compete with Range Rover LWB.
Lincoln Navigator-Fullsize SUV, to compete with QX80, Yukon and Escalade.
Lincoln Navigator Adventurer-LWB version, to compete with Yukon XL and Escalade ESV.

Second, the trim levels wouldn't be changed. They're good as they are.

Third, Lincoln dealers would be separate from Ford dealers. And if they (the Lincoln dealers) want to be Black Labelers, they have to step up their game. They would have to be very upscale, and train their people to be the best luxury car dealermen ever. They would have the best manners. The dealership would stand out from other buildings in the area, with exotic designs.

And that's it. What do you think guys?
ref: Infinti's pairing of the Q/QX car-ish and Cuv-ish versions of basically the SAME vehicle - Mission2020
WHAT IF
Lincoln did something along those lines with the nextgen MKC? = dual versions...
...lowering-sleeker vs softroad-TOUGH doodads &
maybe with the citycar-version featuring if-not-limited-to ELECTRified versions??
even incorporating dual nomenclature like Cosmopolitan/MKC???
 

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a NEW idea :angel ...thanks (tho NoBlame) to

ref: Infinti's pairing of the Q/QX car-ish and Cuv-ish versions of basically the SAME vehicle - Mission2020
WHAT IF
Lincoln did something along those lines with the nextgen MKC? = dual versions...
...lowering-sleeker vs softroad-TOUGH doodads &
maybe with the citycar-version featuring if-not-limited-to ELECTRified versions??
even incorporating dual nomenclature like Cosmopolitan/MKC???
I don't think that could happen because the MKC successor (the Cosmopolitan) would be in the compact class and the Futura city car would be, well, in the city car segment. The only way the ''Infiniti way'' could happen was if there was something like a 500X, and if Lincoln was sold in Europe or other non-North American countries (in fact, that's why Infiniti is doing that: the Q30 would be sold in countries that prefer hatches and the QX30 would be sold in North America, which prefers crossovers).
 

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"Challenging the likes of the Mercedes-Benz CLA and Audi A3 Sedan, BMW is reportedly planning a rear-wheel drive-based 2-Series Gran Coupe model, in addition to the upcoming Chinese market, front-wheel based 2-Series sedan.

As Autocar writes, BMW chairman Harald Krüger's decision to not offer the front-wheel-drive production version of last year's Concept Compact Sedan outside of China, as well as the fact that the next 3-Series sedan is set to grow in size, created enough space for a new model in their rapidly expanding lineup."

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/06/bmw-2-series-gran-coupe-coming-with-rwd.html
 

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^...What I am reading here is that 3-Series is growing up closer to the wheelbase of the current MKZ, which opens the space for a new RWD 2-series that will be about the size of the 2000 E46 3-Series at about 107. Same as current Mustang.
 

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file under toetap :toetap:

Japan moves quickly into mirrorless cars
New technology promises to boost safety and mpg
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Hans Greimel - July 3, 2016

Go to any auto show and there will likely be a futuristic concept car that has ditched its rearview or sideview mirrors.
Designers may have substituted unobtrusive camera lenses that barely bud from the sheet metal.
Mirrorless cars -- or vehicles that drop old-school glass mirrors in favor of video screens -- have been proposed for years by stylists and engineers wanting sleeker looks as well as improved safety and fuel efficiency.

Last month, the proposals came closer to reality in Japan, which became one of the first markets allowing vehicles to use cameras instead of mirrors. The promise of mirrorless cars is sparking a rush of suppliers to the technology, including such entrants as Japan's Ichikoh Industries and Germany's Robert Bosch GmbH.
Japan's first-mover status could give Japanese companies a head start in tapping the trend...

Lots more but you get the "picture"...

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believe it or not the following convo comes from the April-Sales thread...
...proving (to me) that Lincoln's Future-Design has again swung to being a Hot-Topic
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I think Lincoln was going for something more sporty and European with the new grille and lower fascia, although I think the previous design was more 'aggressive and progressive' so to speak. The overall execution however is more sedate and less relatable to those other vehicles simply because Lincoln doesn't have that architectural presence of the RWD Europeans it's emulating. The Continental is halfway there while the MKZ is....not.

I get what they are trying to do but I would direct Lincoln's attention toward the new(?) Caddy Escala** fascia which I think achieves something similar but in a more original and progressive design that I actually find pretty exciting. In either case, I don't think Lincoln's strength right now is in design but in its luxury, amenities, and surprising performance.

I think their goal is just to give customers fewer reasons to ignore Lincoln by using fairly standard luxury design nomenclature instead of freaking out like Lexus when they haven't earned the confidence to do so. And for the most part I think their targeted customers prefer a Lincoln that LOOKS like a Lincoln** and people are generally happy with it. People like me originally liked Lincoln because they were a little on the edge and experimental, it was always something unique if inconsistent. They are heading in the right direction either way, I have confidence they know what they are doing and the brand has never been so well put together.

While I would never consider the new MKZ (use to adore it), I like the Continental so I have hope they can get it right on MKX and others.
2018 Navigator gives a good indication that Lincoln is willing to go all the way exterior design wise. There is a lot happening there, that is not traditional Lincoln, but the New Lincoln.

We almost got there with Continental, and it's like they chickened out with the front end and toned it down, but the rest of on point. The MKZ intention I think is to prepare the consumer for what's coming next. That's why I am expecting a design leap with the new MKC and new MKZ.
briefly thought of pasting this in the STARstang thread ((cuz imho THAT's the next Big Change))
but had to include/focus on CUVs
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** imho Escala is still IN their RUT = only useful as a bad example
** yet Sooo many posters on FB (70yo+?) rant for More 'heritage' cues
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I am more confused now....what would be the "order" of the upcomings debuts?
1.Continental
3.New Aviator? (Lincoln needs a CUV that can sell 4K per month like the MDX!)
4.New Navigator
I still think that Lincoln needs more vehicles, 2 new vehicles until 2020 is not enough
the 2 new vehicles are the Aviator and a version of the Mach1? So, it is really just 1 new vehicles because the Aviator is the redesign of the MKT, not a new segment.
If Lincoln is going to focus on SUV/CUVs the really need to expand their lineup, they need coupe-like SUVs
 
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