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It's anonymous, it's not ugly at all. The EcoSport... now THAT is conspicuously ugly to the point it draws attention to how ugly it is.
 

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It's anonymous, it's not ugly at all. The EcoSport... now THAT is conspicuously ugly to the point it draws attention to how ugly it is.
Sorry, one is pre-teen cute-ish, the other is transgender shocking.
Not even close.

Any explanation as to why you previously compared two CUV’s that are like 1 or 2 classes apart in terms of which you prefer? Or is it just your outspoken disdain for EcoSport? You seemed to skate past that.
 

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Sorry, one is pre-teen cute-ish, the other is transgender shocking.
Not even close.

Any explanation as to why you previously compared two CUV’s that are like 1 or 2 classes apart in terms of which you prefer? Or is it just your outspoken disdain for EcoSport? You seemed to skate past that.
I can see you don't understand the Chinese car market very well if you're talking about segments instead of price.

And indeed EcoSport is a rare underacheiving product for Ford that is part of their failure in China.
 

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I can see you don't understand the Chinese car market very well if you're talking about segments instead of price.

And indeed EcoSport is a rare underacheiving product for Ford that is part of their failure in China.
That's quite the Ass-umption you made here Borg.


My only point once again,
you compared what is easily the worst badge-engineered vehicle in history (Territory) to a vehicle costing far less and is much smaller in size (EcoSport). And yet you still have offered no justification for that strange comparison and of course never will, choosing instead to focus on me.

Hmmmm
 

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That's quite the Ass-umption you made here Borg.


My only point once again,
you compared what is easily the worst badge-engineered vehicle in history (Territory) to a vehicle costing far less and is much smaller in size (EcoSport). And yet you still have offered no justification for that strange comparison and of course never will, choosing instead to focus on me.

Hmmmm
You want to pick a fight and that's fine, that's what you do. I encourage you to do your pricing and market research on China because it's a massive task if you haven't already done it. I don't want to spend a chunk of my day educating you since I know it never works.

And I think the best way for me to co-exist with you on this board is to just block or ignore your comments which was my policy until you said something nice...but I learned my lesson...again.
 

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Well lets do some research here.

Pricing:
Ford Territory: 88,800 to 140,800 Yuan
Ford EcoSport: 94,800 to 127,000 Yuan

EcoSport: 161″ L x 70″ W x 65″ H
Territory: 180.6" L X 76.1" in x 66" H

So the Territory is both cheaper and substantially bigger than EcoSport.

Welcome to China!
 

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Obviously it is bigger, as I stated. Thanks for confirming.
Lower price is a bit shocking though. Must admit, I just assumed on that. But then again, EcoSport is awkwardly priced here in the US as well.

But you have to admit, Territory is the worst badge engineered effort in Ford's history.
 

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It is the most blatant badge job I've ever seen for sure, the car has absolutely no Ford content. I actually think they did a good job with it, the styling is nicely done for a Chinese utility and I think it will get some attention in the market that matters (not us). Ford's situation in China is very dire, they don't have hybrids or price competitive utilities and this is the quickest way to use its resources on the ground to keep the lights on at their Chinese stores.

Whenever I go to China I always see this car as well. It's the BYD Yuan, I always mistake it for the EcoSport it's ripping off. It's actually a strange instance where the copy looks better than the original. It's also the only Ford that a Chinese car has imitated as far as I know.

 
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