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Like the old 2002-05 Aviator, the new one would be based off of a Ford Explorer, The Truth About Cars learned from speaking with an unnamed second-hand source. The claim appears to be backed by the recent filing of the Aviator trademark at the US Patent and Trademark office.

The source also claims that there are no plans for a next-generation Flex or its chassis-mate, the Lincoln MKT. The Aviator would likely replace the MKT altogether as a large crossover in the lineup.


http://www.leftlanenews.com/lincoln-aviator-could-make-a-return-88712.html
 

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^^ :thumb: Deq, but...in the "CarWars" thread
Could Aviator, Not Continental, Begin the End of Lincoln’s Alphabet Soup Naming Scheme?
By Mark Stevenson on June 4, 2015

If rumors prove true, Lincoln could end its love affair with MK alphabet soup names with a new Aviator based upon the new Ford Explorer.

According to a second-hand source, TTAC has been told Ford engineers are working on a project internally called ‘Aviator’ based on the new Explorer. The source also stated there will not be a next-generation Ford Flex and will kill off the Lincoln MKT in the process.



A switch to the Aviator name, supported by recent trademark filings for the name, could be the first in many name changes at Lincoln. In April, Ford President of the Americas Joe Hinrichs said he was “very excited about the Continental name and the attention it’s gotten.” However, it could be the Aviator – not the Continental – to get the name change ball rolling.

In addition to the Aviator information, our source also stated the next Expedition and Navigator would get the 10-speed automatic transmission and an all aluminum body, making the full-size SUVs more efficient and lighter than their key competitors at General Motors.

In an email, Stéphane Cesareo, spokesman for Lincoln, said, “We do not comment on speculation. MKT continues to be present in our lineup, with a new model in 2015. By 2020, we expect to expand the segments that we participate in by adding two new nameplates to the Lincoln brand. We have not provided any indications about the products or their names.”

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/06/could-aviator-not-continental-begin-the-end-of-lincolns-alphabet-soup-naming-scheme/

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...What if the magic platform, the D6/CD6, could also produce a TD6?...
 

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The Truth About Cars learned from speaking with an unnamed second-hand source's cousin who has a friend who posts on a car forum with some guy who claims his sister's son's best friends father is an insider.
Sounds legit. Was it you Wings?
 

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I think a D6 underpinned Aviator should be performance biased. That would differentiate it further from the next Explorer. That would make more sense than a performance Navigator, which should be more about truckiness and capacity and capability - but in a more modern way than current, not unlike the aluminum F150. It could have the token 3rd row, but not a lot of emphasis on it. Lots of style and panache and the like. The Navigator should stick to it's roots, and not try to compete with the LR's of the world. Leave that up to the Aviator.
 

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I think the return of the Aviator is great. I really liked the original Aviator it was a great looking SUV & very luxurious. However with that said I'd still much rather see an all new Mercury Mountaineer.
 

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^ Absolutely 2b2. When Mercury returns I think they should focus on compact to midsize premium entry level luxury cars & crossovers. Leave the larger high level luxury vehicles to Lincoln.
 

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I think a D6 underpinned Aviator should be performance biased. That would differentiate it further from the next Explorer. That would make more sense than a performance Navigator, which should be more about truckiness and capacity and capability - but in a more modern way than current, not unlike the aluminum F150. It could have the token 3rd row, but not a lot of emphasis on it. Lots of style and panache and the like. The Navigator should stick to it's roots, and not try to compete with the LR's of the world. Leave that up to the Aviator.
IMHO the Navigator, the SUV that create the full size luxury segment should be as luxurious as the Range Rover.
The Aviator could be more sporty! and more Range Rover sport! but there is no reason why the Aviator should be better than the Navi!
 

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IMHO the Navigator, the SUV that create the full size luxury segment should be as luxurious as the Range Rover.
The Aviator could be more sporty! and more Range Rover sport! but there is no reason why the Aviator should be better than the Navi!
As much as I would like the Aviator CUV to be more sporty, it still has to be attractive to the broader luxury consumer that needs 7 passenger seating.

Just looking at what luxury consumers are actually buying, the Range Rover Sport only moves just a little over 1500 monthly and less than 10k YTD. That's just about 300 more units YTD than the MKC. While the more conventional luxury MDX sells over 5,000 units monthly with over 24k sold YTD.

I would expect that if the Aviator looked a bit like a bigger(taller/wider/loner) version of the MKX with the new grille, it would be sporty enough and conventional enough for families. While at the same time Lincoln could offer a Sport/Performance version of the Aviator for those lower volume sales.

Hopefully we get a MKX Sport that gives an indication of what Lincoln can do.
 

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I think a D6 underpinned Aviator should be performance biased. That would differentiate it further from the next Explorer. That would make more sense than a performance Navigator, which should be more about truckiness and capacity and capability - but in a more modern way than current, not unlike the aluminum F150. It could have the token 3rd row, but not a lot of emphasis on it. Lots of style and panache and the like. The Navigator should stick to it's roots, and not try to compete with the LR's of the world. Leave that up to the Aviator.
I agree with you about the Navigator. For the Aviator (WIC), trying to compete with LR's is very ambitious... right now, the likes of the Acura MDX and the Infiniti QX60 are more reasonable benchmarks. IMO, the Aviator wouldn't have to be very sporty - I don't like the idea of a sporty SUV in the first place - It should be more sporty relative to the Explorer, fo' sho', but not RR Sport levels of sportiness. Perhaps there could be a sport model, where they go all out with the sportiness, but it should be a separate model.
 

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...the Aviator (WIC)...
:thumb: for "(WIC)" :clap:

...trying to compete with LR's is very ambitious... right now, the likes of the Acura MDX and the Infiniti QX60 are more reasonable benchmarks...
anyone know (or willing to look up) how much dollar-spread there is between a Fully-loaded MDX-or-QX60
and the base LR/RR's?

...Perhaps there could be a sport model, where they go all out with the sportiness, but it should be a separate model.
:thumb: how timely... Link



...I would expect that if the Aviator looked a bit like a bigger(taller/wider/loner) version of the MKX with the new grille, it would be sporty enough and conventional enough for families...
*ahem*

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This is what I see the Aviator looking like. But more upright, taller, longer and wider than the MKX, with a roofline going back further, following the same design theme of the concept.

 

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This is what I see the Aviator looking like. But more upright, taller, longer and wider than the MKX, with a roofline going back further, following the same design theme of the concept.

I would not expect the next Navigator or Aviator to share a design language with MKC or MKX which are part of the previous design administration. The Continental is an indication of where Woodhouse wants to go next.

I am very curious about Expedition/Navigator and what ultimately underpins it. Part of me hopes it's not the GM approach of just slapping a body on a truck and calling it a day because it doesn't matter to these customers, but that's what I fear will happen. It will also be interesting to see if Lincoln shares the Ford body design again, especially once it moves to aluminum which makes it probably less feasible for Lincoln to go off and do its own thing. My opinion is that Ford/Lincoln need to do something much more compelling than the obvious (aka GM's approach) or they just won't matter. My worst fear is that they literally take the F-150 cab and body and just extend it, which would make them look like another fish-tank on wheels.
 

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Wait ... if the new Aviator is based on the Explorer, that would mean it would also switch to FWD from RWD, right? *sighs* I hope not...SMH!


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Lincoln Aviator Rumored to Return as Upscale Ford Explorer Twin

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Lincoln could be dumping its current naming system for something more traditional.

Rumor has it that the American automaker will usher in a new era of model nameplates starting with the Lincoln Aviator, an SUV based on the new Explorer.

Currently, the Lincoln brand uses a mashup of the letters “MK” followed by a third letter such as “S” or “T” to denote the model, which has become not only confusing but hard to remember even for fans of the brand. When the company unveiled the Continental concept earlier this year, many believed that the automaker would turn to a more traditional naming convention, but if that move comes to fruition it won’t be the Continental nameplate to kick it off.

The Truth About Cars reports that Ford engineers are working on a project that is internally known as “Aviator” and that Lincoln will not make a next-generation MKT model based on the Ford Flex, but will give the nameplate the axe altogether. The company recently filed a trademark for the Aviator nameplate, meaning it could be the first of many name changes for the brand.

The company responded to TTAC‘s request for a comment with ...
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Re: Lincoln Aviator Rumored to Return as Upscale Ford Explorer Twin

The Aviator definitely wont be a twin, it will likely be a platform mate. Also likely wont be base off the current Explorer platform as it's nearing the end of it's life cycle, I'd wager it will be D6 based.
 

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Wait ... if the new Aviator is based on the Explorer, that would mean it would also switch to FWD from RWD, right? *sighs* I hope not...SMH!


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New platform for Explorer and Aviator is expected to be RWD.
 

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I would not expect the next Navigator or Aviator to share a design language with MKC or MKX which are part of the previous design administration. The Continental is an indication of where Woodhouse wants to go next.

I am very curious about Expedition/Navigator and what ultimately underpins it. Part of me hopes it's not the GM approach of just slapping a body on a truck and calling it a day because it doesn't matter to these customers, but that's what I fear will happen. It will also be interesting to see if Lincoln shares the Ford body design again, especially once it moves to aluminum which makes it probably less feasible for Lincoln to go off and do its own thing. My opinion is that Ford/Lincoln need to do something much more compelling than the obvious (aka GM's approach) or they just won't matter. My worst fear is that they literally take the F-150 cab and body and just extend it, which would make them look like another fish-tank on wheels.


The design language used by the MKX Concept and Continental Concept is very much the same. The major difference is the design of to very different vehicles. One a low riding, wide, long sedan, the other a more uptight and tall CUV. But both easily identifiable as a new Lincoln. The only major design element variance is the grille. I would expect Lincoln to continue their focus on ensuring there are no shared body panels with the Ford sibling, and the Navigator should look as radically different from the Expedition as the MKX from the Edge.
 

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New platform for Explorer and Aviator is expected to be RWD.
There is absolutely no way Explorer will be RWD, we are probably looking at a platform that can handle larger EcoBoost engines and a more advanced AWD system to put the power down, but will primarily be a FWD architecture in its most basic form. In reality it's a derivative of CD4 which can be scaled up to replace Explorer's beefed up D4. The origin of this platform rumor has been twisted a bit since the original leak, but Ford is the primary customer here, not Lincoln.
 
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