[hirzelt]

The new Explorer, in its upscale versions, is on par and perfectly competitive with its direct rival: The Cadillac XT6 >

The Aviator will figth the Germans and Land Rover

Have to agree, the XT6 does not look like a great vehicle. Not sure why anyone would choose that over the Aviator except for brand loyalty.

But I do think the explorer is over priced versus its competition. I would much rather get a fully equipped Kia Telluride over a mid level explorer for about the same cost.

 

[Falc'man]

I'm in love with the Aviator. Just when Lincoln thought they were getting on top of things with meeting the demand for the Navigator along comes the Aviator to put them under even more pressure to meet demand. Yep, I'm calling it, this is another home run. With that much twist it can't not be.

 

[wingsnut]

Kia Telluride (dumb freaking name) is not exactly attractive, and minivan based or at least, FWD.

Explorer moved well beyond that with it's decades of experience. Not a good comparison. Explorer all the way.

 

[hellb0y]

Kia Telluride (dumb freaking name) is not exactly attractive, and minivan based or at least, FWD.

Explorer moved well beyond that with it's decades of experience. Not a good comparison. Explorer all the way.

You are probably the only one that thinks this way...every other press love the Telluride and Palisade. The interior of both is on par with luxury brands but the price is freaking awesome.

That’s the beauty of competition...I bet Ford will either cut prices by quite a bit or throw in heavy incentives to move them.

 

[wingsnut]

You are probably the only one that thinks this way...every other press love the Telluride and Palisade. The interior of both is on par with luxury brands but the price is freaking awesome.

That’s the beauty of competition...I bet Ford will either cut prices by quite a bit or throw in heavy incentives to move them.

Yah, I am probably the only one. Which means Telluride will no doubt outsell the impressively improved Explorer.

LOL

 

[hellb0y]

You are probably the only one that thinks this way...every other press love the Telluride and Palisade. The interior of both is on par with luxury brands but the price is freaking awesome.

That’s the beauty of competition...I bet Ford will either cut prices by quite a bit or throw in heavy incentives to move them.

Yah, I am probably the only one. Which means Telluride will no doubt outsell the impressively improved Explorer.

LOL

We will have to wait and see what happens...Toyota is likely taking that spot away from Ford in 2020-2021.

 

[ZanatWork]

You are probably the only one that thinks this way...every other press love the Telluride and Palisade. The interior of both is on par with luxury brands but the price is freaking awesome.

That’s the beauty of competition...I bet Ford will either cut prices by quite a bit or throw in heavy incentives to move them.

So...he's the only one that knows a RWD-based SUV from a redressed minivan...? Granted, I'm not shocked that you are confused on the subject...but that's you.

I'm actually a mild fan of Kia, I think that they offer the more attractive offerings between themselves and Hyundai...but this pathetic trolling prior to so much as a test drive is drool-soaked babble from the usual source(s).

 

[MKXCD]

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[hirzelt]

Looks like Lincoln must have had a press event in Napa this week. I'm surprised this is the only video we've seen so far. Hopefully more to come in the next few days.

 

[Falc'man]

 

[wingsnut]

The Aviator is impressive, but I must say, I prefer the equally impressive and better looking Explorer. Nothing too fancy for me, just the Limited with hybrid option. Averaging 28 mpg or so in a large SUV with AWD that can tow 5K is all I need. With that 18 gal gas tank, I bet highway trips are about 600 miles.

 

[hellb0y]

https://www.cars.com/articles/2020-ford-explorer-hybrid-real-world-fuel-economy-405408/

 

[wingsnut]

I guess some will never understand the difference between a minivan based hybrid 'SUV' that can't go offroad, can't tow much, is tepidly slow and with road manners that quickly remind you of it's minivan bones. 10 speeds leads the industry as well.


In another review:

The redesigned Explorer's shorter overhangs make it more agile off road, with a 20-degree approach angle to better help it get up and over obstacles. The Hybrid can ford up to 18 inches of water, and the available hill-descent control keeps the Explorer nice and steady on a 45-degree slope (though the system is pretty noisy). The Explorer isn't a serious off-roader, but it's nice to know plenty of capability is baked in, for those who like a good off-the-beaten-path adventure.

Explorer hybrid does it all it seems.

 

[hellb0y]

I guess some will never understand the difference between a minivan based hybrid 'SUV' that can't go offroad, can't tow much, is tepidly slow and with road manners that quickly remind you of it's minivan bones. 10 speeds leads the industry as well.


In another review:

The redesigned Explorer's shorter overhangs make it more agile off road, with a 20-degree approach angle to better help it get up and over obstacles. The Hybrid can ford up to 18 inches of water, and the available hill-descent control keeps the Explorer nice and steady on a 45-degree slope (though the system is pretty noisy). The Explorer isn't a serious off-roader, but it's nice to know plenty of capability is baked in, for those who like a good off-the-beaten-path adventure.

Explorer hybrid does it all it seems.

For sure....just one example of what a minivan can do 😉

https://youtu.be/4WjpzubCoBo

 

[wingsnut]

.....a minivan inching up a hard surface at less than 1mph, while scraping every surface on the bottom without skidplates.......was painful to watch.


But hey, thanks for sharing. I know several sedans that could complete that with similar 'success.'


LOL

 

[hellb0y]

.....a minivan inching up a hard surface at less than 1mph, while scraping every surface on the bottom without skidplates.......was painful to watch.


But hey, thanks for sharing. I know several sedans that could complete that with similar 'success.'


LOL

Well according to you a Minivan couldn’t do it, now that I proved to you it can....you now shift and say sedans can do that too.....

Roll eyes...just proves my point, most people don’t care 🙂

 

[wingsnut]

Well according to you a Minivan couldn’t do it, now that I proved to you it can....you now shift and say sedans can do that too.....

Roll eyes...just proves my point, most people don’t care 🙂

Holly crap you are a troll.

Yeah, I suggested minvan based SUV's can't "OFFROAD" which typically suggestions the need for high entry / departure angles, or the ability to handle sand, mud, ruts, etc. And I stand by that. Of course people will attempt and no doubt damage their vehicles. The point here is, new Explorer is better equipped to handle offroading, then a FWD minivan. Deal with the facts please.


LOL, as for posting a vid, here is a Crown Vic climbing moab.

Talk about rolling eyes.....

 

[hirzelt]

"As a measure to accommodate the other journalists attending the media event, we are restricted from talking about the car’s driving impressions until next week on August 20."

We should start seeing the driving reviews tomorrow. Can't wait!

tflcar.com/2019/08/the-2020-lincoln-aviator-just-raised-the-bar-heres-one-amazing-feature-that-blew-us-away/

 

[SP1966]

We should start seeing the driving reviews tomorrow.

And by tomorrow you mean 12AM tonight, so 9PM for us peeps on the west coast!



I've been looking forword to this for a long time. We'll be getting to see the meltdown when the Aviator is driven and compared directly to the XT6... and it won't even be close. The gnashing of teeth and denial should be strong over at GMI for the next few days. I forsee a 50 plus page thread coming!

 

[wingsnut]

I must say, as I have paid so little attention the the XT6, I don't even know it's strong or low points. I expect Aviator to do well, but can we really expect a thrashing of the caddy?